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Fide Sanctions
I was just wondering, in regards to the rapid escalation of the situation in the Ukraine and heavy economic sanctions being levied against Russia and now even uefa removing any football events from the country. Is it therefore likely that fide might do something along the same lines of banning russian players competing in any events or stripping of titles ?
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It's not the sort of offence for which they would be stripping titles. Banning Russian players from competing, possibly, although that would severely disrupt the ongoing World Championship qualification campaign.
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I can't think there's any appetite for stripping individual Russian players, who may themselves be opposed to the policies of Vladimir Putin, of their titles. Banning official Russian teams is another matter. And individual Russian players will find it harder to compete abroad due to increased difficulties with visas, currency, etc.IM Jack Rudd wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:12 amIt's not the sort of offence for which they would be stripping titles. Banning Russian players from competing, possibly, although that would severely disrupt the ongoing World Championship qualification campaign.
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"I can't think there's any appetite for stripping individual Russian players, who may themselves be opposed to the policies of Vladimir Putin, of their titles."
Indeed. The Olympics banned Russia for systematic cheating with drugs, but then accepted entries under the name "Russian Olympic Committee" (perhaps they didn't realise it was the same country), and that went well. So would FIDE ban a country? I think South Africa was the last country to be kicked out of FIDE (for racist policies). Then FIDE banned individuals for coaching black children in South Africa, which does not sound sensible...
The Olympiad has taken place in unsuitable countries before, where member nations were not able to play.
The war is not actually in Russia, so maybe FIDE will let it go ahead, but I imagine the number of entries would tumble.
Indeed. The Olympics banned Russia for systematic cheating with drugs, but then accepted entries under the name "Russian Olympic Committee" (perhaps they didn't realise it was the same country), and that went well. So would FIDE ban a country? I think South Africa was the last country to be kicked out of FIDE (for racist policies). Then FIDE banned individuals for coaching black children in South Africa, which does not sound sensible...
The Olympiad has taken place in unsuitable countries before, where member nations were not able to play.
The war is not actually in Russia, so maybe FIDE will let it go ahead, but I imagine the number of entries would tumble.
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I don't remember calls to ban British and American chess players after the invasion of Iraq.
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Please see my Twitter feed at https://twitter.com/DavidSedgwickIA/sta ... 3815840768 for contrasting reactions to the contrasting statements of two top Russian GMs.
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GM Ian Nepomniachtchi: "History has seen many Black Thursdays. But today is blacker than the others.
GM Peter Svidler: "Silence made today possible. #notowar"
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While this is all very understandable and perhaps right, people maybe want to think through the possible implications of making invitations to events dependent on the statements of individual players about conflicts in which their countries are involved, especially if it were elevated into a general principle.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:17 amPlease see my Twitter feed at https://twitter.com/DavidSedgwickIA/sta ... 3815840768 for contrasting reactions to the contrasting statements of two top Russian GMs.
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So now we are allowing athletes to ply their trade only on condition of expressing their support for a political view of the organisers. I thought that was what the bad guys did.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:17 amPlease see my Twitter feed at https://twitter.com/DavidSedgwickIA/sta ... 3815840768 for contrasting reactions to the contrasting statements of two top Russian GMs.
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I wondered what ICCF would do about current CC games involving Ukrainian players, then noticed one of my games had been stopped. This is the answer https://www.iccf.com/message?message=1520
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Needless to say, a certain other leading Russian GM has reacted somewhat differentlyMick Norris wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:57 amchess.com
GM Ian Nepomniachtchi: "History has seen many Black Thursdays. But today is blacker than the others.GM Peter Svidler: "Silence made today possible. #notowar"
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This is not the thread on cryptic clues - say the name.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:13 pmNeedless to say, a certain other leading Russian GM has reacted somewhat differently
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On Karjakins twitter he says he agrees with every word of this post: (Via google translate)Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:13 pmNeedless to say, a certain other leading Russian GM has reacted somewhat differently
Are there people who like war? I think if there is, then they are a minority. And least of all lovers of war are among generals and officers. Because they know perfectly well what the price of victory is.
There is a lot of noise on social networks now that the war in Ukraine should be over. But that's exactly what our polite people are doing now. Who has a bad memory, I can remind you about the enforcement of peace in Georgia. Until 08/08/2008 - constant provocations and shooting at the border, loss of life. After - peace, silence and tranquility. And no one in Georgia even thinks of trying to attack South Ossetia and Abkhazia, let alone Russia.
It was not we who started the war in Ukraine, and it began long ago - with the first people killed not even in the Donbass, but on the streets of Kiev in January 2014. But now we have the opportunity to end this protracted war.
Therefore, it is extremely surprising for me to see now those who call on Russia to stop. Those who are really for peace, let them turn with words of support to their friends and relatives in Ukraine. Years of haze will soon subside. The artificial hostility will stop.
Those who take Ukrainian flags to Russian streets are simply deceiving themselves. The world is closer than ever before. In addition, the risk of provocations is high, because the real enemies of peaceful Ukraine now really need videos of “aggression”. This must be understood first of all.
I am for peace and tranquility on Ukrainian soil. And since the inhabitants of Ukraine themselves failed, it is our sacred duty to help them. Our soldiers came in peace. Any support for the Kiev regime is support for the war.
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From Star Trekkin' by The Firm:Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:25 pmOn Karjakins twitter he says he agrees with every word of this post: (Via google translate)Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:13 pmNeedless to say, a certain other leading Russian GM has reacted somewhat differently
Are there people who like war? I think if there is, then they are a minority. And least of all lovers of war are among generals and officers. Because they know perfectly well what the price of victory is.
There is a lot of noise on social networks now that the war in Ukraine should be over. But that's exactly what our polite people are doing now. Who has a bad memory, I can remind you about the enforcement of peace in Georgia. Until 08/08/2008 - constant provocations and shooting at the border, loss of life. After - peace, silence and tranquility. And no one in Georgia even thinks of trying to attack South Ossetia and Abkhazia, let alone Russia.
It was not we who started the war in Ukraine, and it began long ago - with the first people killed not even in the Donbass, but on the streets of Kiev in January 2014. But now we have the opportunity to end this protracted war.
Therefore, it is extremely surprising for me to see now those who call on Russia to stop. Those who are really for peace, let them turn with words of support to their friends and relatives in Ukraine. Years of haze will soon subside. The artificial hostility will stop.
Those who take Ukrainian flags to Russian streets are simply deceiving themselves. The world is closer than ever before. In addition, the risk of provocations is high, because the real enemies of peaceful Ukraine now really need videos of “aggression”. This must be understood first of all.
I am for peace and tranquility on Ukrainian soil. And since the inhabitants of Ukraine themselves failed, it is our sacred duty to help them. Our soldiers came in peace. Any support for the Kiev regime is support for the war.
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