Rules concerning blitz?

[NickFaulks]

So I spoke to the arbiter in question tonight. He said he is not using the current rules, he is using the old rules because they are less annoying.

Love it!

[Ian Thompson]

So I spoke to the arbiter in question tonight. He said he is not using the current rules, he is using the old rules because they are less annoying.

I suppose the obvious question is whether games are eligible for FIDE rating if they are not being played to the current rules. I would say no because the rating regulations say "Play shall be governed by the FIDE Laws of Chess" and that implies the current Laws.

[Kevin Thurlow]

"he is using the old rules because they are less annoying."

Well, yes, that is true. The Blitz laws only really work if the arbiters outnumber the players. Unfortunately, you need to use the right Laws...

At least FIDE only change the Laws occasionally.

"I suppose the obvious question is whether games are eligible for FIDE rating if they are not being played to the current rules. I would say no because the rating regulations say "Play shall be governed by the FIDE Laws of Chess" and that implies the current Laws."

Bad wording, it should actually specify the "current" Laws, rather tha imply them... Proper legislation usually specifies the date, I believe.

[NickFaulks]

Bad wording, it should actually specify the "current" Laws, rather than imply them... Proper legislation usually specifies the date, I believe.

I had never considered that, but I suppose you're right.

All the same, when the FO recommends that visitors to Turkey keep within Turkish law, I do assume they do not mean whatever was current in 1850.

[Paul McKeown]

Well, yes, that is true. The Blitz laws only really work if the arbiters outnumber the players. Unfortunately, you need to use the right Laws...

Surely you mean it the other way around?

The Blitz laws apply when there is an insufficient number of arbiters:

B.3.1 The Competition Rules shall apply if:
B.3.1.1 one arbiter supervises one game and
B.3.1.2 each game is recorded by the arbiter or his assistant and, if possible, by
electronic means.

The standard laws apply if there is one arbiter per game, otherwise the Blitz Laws of Appendix B apply.

[Paul McKeown]

Searching through the records, it would seem that the event concerned is: https://ratings.fide.com/report.phtml?event=316514&t=2,
a blitz tournament played in Bangkok. However, neither arbiter, nor organiser seem to be IA, both being recorded as NA.

It does seem disturbing, though, that an event can be FIDE rated when the arbiter/organiser was determined to rule contrary to the FIDE Laws.

[MJMcCready]

Yes that is indeed the tournament in question.

[MJMcCready]

Searching through the records, it would seem that the event concerned is: https://ratings.fide.com/report.phtml?event=316514&t=2,
a blitz tournament played in Bangkok. However, neither arbiter, nor organiser seem to be IA, both being recorded as NA.

It does seem disturbing, though, that an event can be FIDE rated when the arbiter/organiser was determined to rule contrary to the FIDE Laws.

His main beef is that one illegal move should lose you the game and not two because with two you have to stop the clock and call the arbiter over and that's hassle.

[NickFaulks]

His main beef is that one illegal move should lose you the game and not two because with two you have to stop the clock and call the arbiter over and that's hassle.

I completely agree with him on that. In fact I would go further. When we played blitz at school, an en prise king was simply taken, as a queen would be, and I still believe that is the most satisfactory approach.

However, it is not what the Laws say and in a rated event the Laws must be followed. If MJM were to make a formal complaint, it would not be ignored and there is at least a chance that he would regain his lost rating points.

[MJMcCready]

ok but rating points matter very little to me. I wanted to raise the question because it was the first time I had heard such things being said and it left me in a confused state. Thanks for all the feedback everyone.