League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

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Anthony Taglione
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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by Anthony Taglione » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:24 pm

Hi, Neill

Your name does ring a bell. I think I can even fit a face and form to it. So many years. I guess you'd have known Andy Strangeways, too, a close friend of John's, who was also at Wychfiled. I was at Fitz.

I'm trying to remember who was at Chrurchill but failing. I think Sams was at Caius and Brian Derby was at Jesus. Was Colin Crouch at Churchill, maybe?

Do you remember a period where we had the odd tendency we had to drop the opening consonants from people's names such that Colin was O Ouch, although I remember him as O O Ouch. There was also Chris Cooley who went through a period of being noted for playing c3 and became known as C3 Ooley. Simon, obviously, was known as Onq.

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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by Neill Cooper » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:54 pm

Anthony Taglione wrote:Your name does ring a bell. I think I can even fit a face and form to it. So many years. I guess you'd have known Andy Strangeways, too, a close friend of John's, who was also at Wychfiled. I was at Fitz.
I knew Andy well (we shared a set of rooms) - though he was not a chess player but a D&D dungeon master (much more time consuming in the days before PCs) and also, like John, a diplomacy player.

C3ooley, I remember that. Very Wilmanesq.

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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:29 am

Look at 'The Chess Organiser's Handbook' page 14 of the current edition, although that section was first published in 1997, for an analysis of an extreme case of this problem for a 4 board match. The range was from 17.5-22.5 to 24-16.
The New York League used to have the players in any order the captain chose. This was explained to me when I observed that Pal Benko (then a Candidate) was placed on board 5 for Manhattan Club.
As others have said, an 80 FIDE, 10 ECF RULE seems eminently sensible.

Stewart Reuben

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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by James Pratt » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:34 am

What is the biggest gap between grades of opponents in a league?

I offered Joe French (108) v Shaun Taulbut (232), a game from the Berks League in the 80s. Shaun was very nice about it.

Regarding missing letters, it was Simon C LeBlancq, who died in Africa. Hope my spelling holds :!:

Anthony Taglione
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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by Anthony Taglione » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:17 pm

Yes, the spelling is accurate. Now that I see it written that way, it is exactly as I recall it.

I'm a little taken aback to read of Simon's passing; another erstwhile close friend to cross off the list. Thanks for the notification.

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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by John Philpott » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:11 pm

James Pratt wrote
What is the biggest gap between grades of opponents in a league?
Roger Oxenham 126 v Lawrence Trent 226 was a pairing in division 2 of the Essex League in January 2007, with a nice round 100 point grading difference.

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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by James Pratt » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:17 pm

Dear Anthony

Please feel free to contact be direct about Simon. I knew him quite well.

[email protected]

James Pratt

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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by David Williams » Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:48 pm

James Pratt wrote:What is the biggest gap between grades of opponents in a league?

I offered Joe French (108) v Shaun Taulbut (232), a game from the Berks League in the 80s. Shaun was very nice about it.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, in the Merseyside League two years ago Bryan Simm (77) stood in against Nigel Davies (228), and later in the season broke his own record by playing Stewart Haslinger (232). He probably got fed up when he realised his grade was going to suffer.

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Re: League Rules regarding Board order by ECF rating

Post by Richard Haddrell » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:53 pm

It isn't exactly a league, but the BUCA Championship (see http://www.buca.org.uk/buca-championshi ... nship?pg=3) has no problems with board order: -

"Please fill out your team in order of strength, with your strongest player on board 1. If done inaccurately, the tournament organisers will rearrange your team for you."