British Chess Championships 2010

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Alex McFarlane » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:07 pm

Even though Jack is incorruptable I think his actions are monitored enough to ensure that there is no bias.

He usually knows the pairings before we start anyway. It would be inexcusable to ignore someone with his expertise though I don't always accept his pairings!!!

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:09 pm

Richard and Alex,
Oh yes that was pretty bad!

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Eoin Devane » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:22 pm

Wilf Arnold wrote:You need to download the file from the PGN files page - it is called bc2010r1.pgn - this has the moves in it - including the correct end to Simon Williams' game yesterday
Thanks Wilf - I've got them now.

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:37 pm

Wilf Arnold wrote:I have yet to see a pairing program that is coupled to a language parser so that you can try to get pairings such as 'Liver' and 'Onions', or 'White' and 'Christmas'. The nearest I got was a pairing of 'Price' and 'Fisher', but the colour preferences were wrong.
At a Cowley Blitz Tournament a couple of years Anna Wang was paired up against Simon King. The controller looked at the pairings board for a few seconds and then quickly switched them round so that Simon was white. It was a good five minutes before I worked out why.

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Wilf Arnold » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:42 pm

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
Wilf Arnold wrote:I have yet to see a pairing program that is coupled to a language parser so that you can try to get pairings such as 'Liver' and 'Onions', or 'White' and 'Christmas'. The nearest I got was a pairing of 'Price' and 'Fisher', but the colour preferences were wrong.
At a Cowley Blitz Tournament a couple of years Anna Wang was paired up against Simon King. The controller looked at the pairings board for a few seconds and then quickly switched them round so that Simon was white. It was a good five minutes before I worked out why.
Maybe it also needs to be integrated with a sense of humour package, with the 'taste' option set to 'off'.

The controller responsible should hang his/her head in shame! :)

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:46 pm

Wilf Arnold wrote:
Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
Wilf Arnold wrote:I have yet to see a pairing program that is coupled to a language parser so that you can try to get pairings such as 'Liver' and 'Onions', or 'White' and 'Christmas'. The nearest I got was a pairing of 'Price' and 'Fisher', but the colour preferences were wrong.
At a Cowley Blitz Tournament a couple of years Anna Wang was paired up against Simon King. The controller looked at the pairings board for a few seconds and then quickly switched them round so that Simon was white. It was a good five minutes before I worked out why.
Maybe it also needs to be integrated with a sense of humour package, with the 'taste' option set to 'off'.

The controller responsible should hang his/her head in shame! :)
Yes, shame - if the pairing was correct, he should have left it as it stood!
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Rob Thompson » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:50 pm

The best one I've ever seen was Roger Neat playing Norman Tidy. Unfortunately, Norman was paired as white, but offered to swap colours anyway
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Wilf Arnold » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:09 pm

Looks like they're going for at least 12 boards today.

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Wilf Arnold » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:18 pm

..also no 5 minute delay?

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:21 pm

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:24 pm

Wilf Arnold wrote:The controller responsible should hang his/her head in shame! :)
Obviously it would be inappropriate to name the Tim Dickinson responsible.

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by David Sedgwick » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:28 pm

Rob Thompson wrote:The best one I've ever seen was Roger Neat playing Norman Tidy. Unfortunately, Norman was paired as white, but offered to swap colours anyway
You're out of date. Two or three years ago at Paignton, when I was Chief Arbiter, Roger Neat made the opening remarks on behalf of Devon CCA and expressed the hope that he'd be given the white pieces against Norman Tidy at some point during the event. A few days later his wish was fulfilled.

The other one that I particularly remember was when Ken Norman had white against Stuart Conquest in the Isle of Man. We've not yet managed that pairing at Hastings - that really would be something.

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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Rob Thompson » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:40 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Rob Thompson wrote:The best one I've ever seen was Roger Neat playing Norman Tidy. Unfortunately, Norman was paired as white, but offered to swap colours anyway
You're out of date. Two or three years ago at Paignton, when I was Chief Arbiter, Roger Neat made the opening remarks on behalf of Devon CCA and expressed the hope that he'd be given the white pieces against Norman Tidy at some point during the event. A few days later his wish was fulfilled.

The other one that I particularly remember was when Ken Norman had white against Stuart Conquest in the Isle of Man. We've not yet managed that pairing at Hastings - that really would be something.
That was the congress i was reffering to, but i thought Norman Tidy was white... :oops:
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:43 pm

In Pert-Haydon, hasn't Black fallen into a well-known trap because White has 9.c5?
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Re: British Chess Championships 2010

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:03 pm

I hope something has gone wrong with the moves in the Williams - Littlewood game. Otherwise Paul has had a real problem :D