How Snooker and Chess are similar.

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by PeterTurland » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:55 am

Whoops a daisy, I forgot I was not teaching, seeing as I have no credentials at 61 years old and having probably driven over a million miles as a truck driver and read god knows how many books, I forgot, I probably don't know what I'm talking about.

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Post by PeterTurland » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:02 am

Some of the people who run our planet, lack important brain organs.

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Post by PeterTurland » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:03 am

Nite all

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Post by Gavin Strachan » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:22 am

Steve Davis came down to my club Brentwood with Dave Norwood to create the book. I was off at uni at the time so missed the event. He had an estimated grade of 130 if I remember rightly, though based on about 3 games tops! Davis lives in Brentwood but has had very little to do with chess and the club since the book and ECF presidency. I cannot for the life of me work out why he did the book or got involved in chess. Bizarrely, in the year we ran the first congress in Brentwood that attracted 236 entrants he did not come down but he did do a prize giving at some junior event elsewhere in the country.

On the subject of snooker and chess I was thinking whilst watching the snooker that it is not a great deal more interesting to watch on tv than chess but a lot easier to understand which is why it is on the box.

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by Gareth Harley-Yeo » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:04 am

PeterTurland wrote:
why did Davis end up running our sport, when he did not have a recognisable proficiency at pushing wood?
I'd say all he does is push wood, just wood of a different shape to your average chess player. :mrgreen:

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by PeterTurland » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:23 am

Gareth Harley-Yeo wrote:
PeterTurland wrote:
why did Davis end up running our sport, when he did not have a recognisable proficiency at pushing wood?
I'd say all he does is push wood, just wood of a different shape to your average chess player. :mrgreen:
Ah but I meant pushing wood as a metaphor, not literally - most people these days push plastic OTB and as I no longer play OTB, but do play online, 'electrons'!

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by Stewart Reuben » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:08 pm

Steve Davis has chess understanding of about 120.
I tried to set up a chess/snooker match between him and Karpov many years ago, but it fell through. Neither wanted to play doubles, both saying they fancied their chances at the other sport. Chess has the great advantage in such mismatches that the player make alternate moves - however bad.

We started looking to a BCF/ECF President from outside the normal chess administrators in 1993. Sir Jeremy Morse (CEO Lloyds Bank) did accept, but withdrew due to other commitments. John Brew (Grieveson Grant) turned it down. When I became chairman in 1996, we looked hard. I thought people would prefer to shake hands with a more charismatic figure. Richard Branson, Sir Tim Rice, Lennox Lewis were approached to no avail. Steve served as President for four years. He was still a snooker-playing professional and had little time for the role. But he attended at least 6 events during his period, mainly to do with junior chess and was an absolute profesional. I don't think Prince William, Sting or Stephen Fry have ever been approached. A politican would not necessarily be a good idea because of a potential conflict of interests.

CJ is fitting the bill admirably as President.

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by PeterTurland » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:21 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote:Steve Davis has chess understanding of about 120.
I tried to set up a chess/snooker match between him and Karpov many years ago, but it fell through. Neither wanted to play doubles, both saying they fancied their chances at the other sport. Chess has the great advantage in such mismatches that the player make alternate moves - however bad.

We started looking to a BCF/ECF President from outside the normal chess administrators in 1993. Sir Jeremy Morse (CEO Lloyds Bank) did accept, but withdrew due to other commitments. John Brew (Grieveson Grant) turned it down. When I became chairman in 1996, we looked hard. I thought people would prefer to shake hands with a more charismatic figure. Richard Branson, Sir Tim Rice, Lennox Lewis were approached to no avail. Steve served as President for four years. He was still a snooker-playing professional and had little time for the role. But he attended at least 6 events during his period, mainly to do with junior chess and was an absolute profesional. I don't think Prince William, Sting or Stephen Fry have ever been approached. A politican would not necessarily be a good idea because of a potential conflict of interests.

CJ is fitting the bill admirably as President.

Stewart Reuben
As I wrote earlier "At least De Mooi has a discoverable grade, the question is, why did Davis end up running our sport, when he did not have a recognisable proficiency at pushing wood"

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Steve Davis, I just wonder why our sport is not on TV, when an incredible amount of absolute rubbish is broadcast, you know gay TV, porn, cheap tacky jewellery auctions, sports like bull riding, I'm just waiting for competitive ironing to make its appearance.

One very interesting thread on this forum, concerns venues, I've only played two seasons as a club player and it was for Wigston, first season for the fifth team, second season for the third and forth teams, one of the reasons I jacked it in, was how poor most of the venues were, draughty, cold, boring usually in pubs, where I could not have a drink because I was driving, frankly the venues made me feel like a second class citizen and I had had enough of that, after 20 years as truck driver.

However there was one exception in terms of Leicestershire's venues and that was in Ashby De La Zouch it actually had pictures of chess players long past, on the walls, it made me feel a bit special and possibly was why I played this 17 move win, where some of my other results were abysmal.

1. d4 f5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. e3 e6 4. Be2 Nc6 5. Bh5+ Nxh5 6. Qxh5+ g6 7. Qe2 b6
8. Nf3 Bb7 9. e4 Bg7 10. exf5 gxf5 11. d5 Nb4 12. dxe6 d6 13. a3 Bxc3+ 14.
bxc3 Bxf3 15. Qxf3 Nxc2+ 16. Kd1 Nxa1 17. Qh5+

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:47 pm

PeterTurland wrote:.... I just wonder why our sport is not on TV, when an incredible amount of absolute rubbish is broadcast, you know gay TV....
*raises eyebrow*

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by PeterTurland » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:28 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
PeterTurland wrote:.... I just wonder why our sport is not on TV, when an incredible amount of absolute rubbish is broadcast, you know gay TV....
*raises eyebrow*
I have nothing against people who prefer sexual acts with people of their own gender per se and consider the way Alan Turin was treated by our judiciary to be a scandal, but take issue as to how our culture seems, in terms of its want of 'simplicity' to go from one extreme to the other.

I fail to see how wanting to conduct sexual acts, with someone the same sex as oneself, is worthy of being promoted.

I also fail to see why indulging in sexual acts with someone the same sex as yourself, as being something to be 'proud' of, it has the sense of people who are born with six fingers, one leg shorter than the other, blind and numerous other people born with something that is not conducive to life's survival, would not march up the street beat their chests and be proud of the way they were.

Most of all, I fail to see why gayness is on our national media and chess isn't.

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:34 pm

PeterTurland wrote:Most of all, I fail to see why gayness is on our national media and chess isn't.
*raises other eyebrow*

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:55 pm

Jack, would now be a good time to steer this conversation in the direction of adjournments? :shock:

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Re: How Snooker and Chess are similar.

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:52 am

Alex Holowczak wrote:Jack, would now be a good time to steer this conversation in the direction of adjournments? :shock:
It might be best for it to go somewhere other than where it's currently headed, certainly.

I'd like to remind all participants in this discussion that, while the portrayal of homosexuality in the media is a fine topic for discussion, it should be discussed in the Not Chess! subforum and not in General Chat.

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