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The master game

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:45 am
by Matthew Turner
Yesterday I looked up The master game on Youtube (searching for chess the master game) and found some interesting things. There is a fifteen year old Nigel Short defeating Tony Miles.

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgvAL60Blk
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0_y8dHRR30
Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97jTp6LMzdU

I have a couple of questions about this game.
1. Why couldn't Tony play 41.....Nxd4?
2. Does anybody know what the time control was?

If you prefer a little bit of light relief then this is quite a funny spoof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu3OG9qhvhM
I guess they have used a famous game and it looks like the players must know a bit about chess.

Re: The master game

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:56 am
by James Byrne
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Re: The master game

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:14 am
by Carl Hibbard
James Byrne wrote:There's a guy from the South Bristol Chess club who created a youtube channel and uploaded around 12 full episodes, can view them here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Sirb0b1
Awesome link James and highly recommended for someone (like me) who recalls them all with some affection....

Watching now!

Re: The master game

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:26 pm
by James Pratt
wow!

Re: The master game

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:46 pm
by Mike W. Richardt
I can't believe Lothar Schmid won in 1980!!!
Not bad at all!

Re: The master game

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:56 pm
by David Lettington
Matthew Turner wrote: Does anybody know what the time control was?
In series 1-3 it was 40 moves in 2.5 hours, but I don't know what the second time control was.

In series 4-6 it was 40 moves in 2 hours, followed by all moves in an hour.

If games were drawn the re-plays were at faster time controls.

Re: The master game

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:13 pm
by Joey Stewart
I think the only way we will really know why he did not play that move is to ask him. He crops up from time to time at big events, but is not easy to pin down - I have never met anybody who has spoken to nigel short in real life.

By the way - we could make a new version of the master game - it would be so easy to do, provided that a couple of masters were willing to agree to provide voice talk. I imagine the real difficulty would be in getting the loser to cooperate in this.
Who is up for a "master game" at the 4ncl this weekend? I could bring along a voice talk recorder (well, actually, my phone) and try getting a few words from the players in the analysis room.

Re: The master game

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:23 am
by IM Jack Rudd
Joey Stewart wrote: Who is up for a "master game" at the 4ncl this weekend? I could bring along a voice talk recorder (well, actually, my phone) and try getting a few words from the players in the analysis room.
Yeah, I'd be up for that.

Re: The master game

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:28 am
by Alex Holowczak
IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Joey Stewart wrote: Who is up for a "master game" at the 4ncl this weekend? I could bring along a voice talk recorder (well, actually, my phone) and try getting a few words from the players in the analysis room.
Yeah, I'd be up for that.
Jack, you're supposed to be working. :wink:

Re: The master game

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:37 am
by IM Jack Rudd
Alex Holowczak wrote:
IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Joey Stewart wrote: Who is up for a "master game" at the 4ncl this weekend? I could bring along a voice talk recorder (well, actually, my phone) and try getting a few words from the players in the analysis room.
Yeah, I'd be up for that.
Jack, you're supposed to be working. :wink:
Because I'm always flat-out on the Saturday afternoon and never have masses of dead time. :roll:

Re: The master game

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:41 am
by Jonathan Bryant
Joey Stewart wrote:I have never met anybody who has spoken to nigel short in real life.
I walked passed him in the street once and therefore I can confirm Nosher does actually exist. I was also in a newsagents when Vlad Kramnik came in to buy some cigarettes. In that case he was playing in a tournament over the road. My encounter with Nigel Short was entirely random.

Re: The master game

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:30 am
by Alex Holowczak
IM Jack Rudd wrote:Because I'm always flat-out on the Saturday afternoon and never have masses of dead time. :roll:
This is the time I thought you had allocated for your "other activities". :wink:

Re: The master game

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:33 am
by Phil Neatherway
I've said before that I worked for the company that once sponsored Nigel, and I met him 2 or 3 times. I always found him very approachable and ready to chat.

Re: The master game

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:33 pm
by Joey Stewart
Can you help solve Matthews request then? I am sure he would be quite willing to give you a free 30 minute coaching session as a reward for your answering of this question.

Re: The master game

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:24 pm
by Richard Bates
Joey Stewart wrote:I think the only way we will really know why he did not play that move is to ask him. He crops up from time to time at big events, but is not easy to pin down - I have never met anybody who has spoken to nigel short in real life.
I'm not quite sure why Short should have particular insight into the reason why Miles didn't play a move. Although the answer seems pretty obvious, if you watch the video - he(/they) both missed it. Otherwise they would have mentioned it.