BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul Cooksey » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:20 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:I wonder if any draws have been offered or rejected? At what point do GMs offer and accept draws in pawn endgames?
at the beginning or the end, think we will see this played out

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:21 pm

England recovered to 221 all out, due mostly to a rapid 64 from Broad.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by John Moore » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:21 pm

It is an outside passed pawn - I suspect Black may have to play very accurately/

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:26 pm

John Moore wrote:It is an outside passed pawn - I suspect Black may have to play very accurately/
To me it looks like White's the one who has to play carefully.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:29 pm

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
John Moore wrote:It is an outside passed pawn - I suspect Black may have to play very accurately/
To me it looks like White's the one who has to play carefully.
Not really, White can't get zugged, because he has Kc4-b4-c4-b4. Black can never let White play Kb5, so his king has to stay put. That's my dumbass way of looking at it. Usual disclaimer: I need three extra pawns to draw any pawn endgame.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:31 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:
Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:
John Moore wrote:It is an outside passed pawn - I suspect Black may have to play very accurately/
To me it looks like White's the one who has to play carefully.
Not really, White can't get zugged, because he has Kc4-b4-c4-b4. Black can never let White play Kb5, so his king has to stay put. That's my dumbass way of looking at it. Usual disclaimer: I need three extra pawns to draw any pawn endgame.
What if Black gets a pawn to f4 and so threatens e4 if White's king plays to b4?
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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Matthew Turner » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:35 pm

What is happening with Gordon - Hunt. Why not 24.... Nxe4 now we have 26. qxe7 rxe7 27. rxd7 rxd7 28. nxe4 and surely white stands better

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Maxim Devereaux » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:37 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:What is happening with Gordon - Hunt. Why not 24.... Nxe4 now we have 26. qxe7 rxe7 27. rxd7 rxd7 28. nxe4 and surely white stands better
Mmm... that does seem to be something of a problem. Don't really understand Black's last few moves, I have to say.

EDIT: Back to Adams... 40. f4 e4 played. I must admit, I don't see the idea from Mickey.
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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:39 pm

Well, Adams has radically prevented that possibility, but even g3-g4 would have been sufficient, I would have thought. Draw.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:42 pm

Now 41. Kd4 f5 42. Kc4, shake hands?

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:43 pm

Or 41. Kd4 e3 42. Kxe3 Kxc5, shake hands?

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by John Moore » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:47 pm

Been trying to make f5 work - but then I have had a drink now.

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:48 pm

Lucky you, John!

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul Cooksey » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:49 pm

Maxim Devereaux wrote:
Matthew Turner wrote:What is happening with Gordon - Hunt. Why not 24.... Nxe4 now we have 26. qxe7 rxe7 27. rxd7 rxd7 28. nxe4 and surely white stands better
Mmm... that does seem to be something of a problem. Don't really understand Black's last few moves, I have to say.
Gordon might have found something even better

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Re: BRITISH CHESS CHAMPIONSHIPS - THE GAMES

Post by Paul McKeown » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:55 pm

John, now that f5 has been played, Adams plays Kc4, then he can always triangulate via c3, d4 and c4, if Black manouevres his king. No way through for Black.