London Chess Classic - games only

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London Chess Classic - games only

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:46 pm

I thought I'd create this separate thread. I think we can have two on the LCC, and I suggest this one to be used for comments on the chess only - not on the implications of the results, or anything else.

Adams v Anand is the first to have sprung into life. Anand's 16...d5 would have been prepared and I suppose the task is to assess the possibilities after 17 exd5 Bb4 18 d6

If there is anyone out there who uses computers, give us the main line and tell us which program you are using (it won't mean much to me but it probably will to others)

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by benedgell » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:50 pm

I'd give short odds that both McShane and Howell end up with no. of moves equal to no. of seconds left on the clock before the time control.

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:53 pm

sigh, well no doubt the "what about the critical looking 17 exd5?" question will be answered in the press conference instead ...

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by John Moore » Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:57 pm

David Howell has at least managed to play 9 moves reasonably quickly. Mind you, it must be fairly intimidating to face Carlsen with Black.

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by benedgell » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:05 pm

If Howell plays 10...g5 it all gets interesting. Although I imagine Howell wasn't aiming for 'interesting' when he played the Berlin.

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by John Moore » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:15 pm

By the way the Fide open games are also live - so six more games to watch.

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:46 pm

I'm impressed by Naka so far. He seems to be one of those players whose best efforts are as often as not with Black.

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by John Moore » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:48 pm

Isn't Howell Ok in this positions. V Steinitizian but also solid

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:51 pm

I would say not. You can of course play this sort of position, but it seems to my amateur eye to be a little too awkward, an White's build-up very quick.
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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by John Moore » Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:55 pm

Maybe Nh7 - this of course without benefit of engine

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:00 pm

Well, he didn't. I seem to remember from when I once looked at the Berlin Steinitz that ...Nh7 was often a option, but I wonder whether Bxe7 followed by Qf3 and Rae1 was going to be difficult to meet.
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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:00 pm

McShane seems to be more than an hour down on the clock.
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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by John Moore » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:10 pm

Justin - I agree with your plan after Nh7 but Black is still Ok, I think. Dunno what Qb8 is about - mixing variations, maybe

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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:17 pm

Normal square for the queen in the variation where bishops aren't exchanged, I think.

There used to be some kind of chess program that came as standard with some PCs. I forget its name, but what I remember was that the board wasn't square, it was sort of in perspective, so that it narrowed towards the far end. Anyway, it used to play the Steinitz against me and despite being fairly primitive by today's standards, it used to wipe me out practically every time. And I remember how it used to like to play Qb8.
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Re: London Chess Classic - games only

Post by John Moore » Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:23 pm

Maybe you are right but this position is not quite the same - anyway we need an IM or someone to help us here

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