British Championships 2012 - Games

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Simon Brown » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:52 pm

Black isn't winning now though. Bet there was something better than Ne5

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:54 pm

I have the impression that the clocks are not working alongside the boards in many cases - quite a few people seem to have no time, while their opponents have between half an hour or even the full one hour and 40!

obviously in David Howell's case, the clock is right ....

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Simon Ansell » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:54 pm

Interesting ending now in Howell - Hawkins, good chances for White? Maybe the attack wasn't quite as devastating as it looked, unless 20. Nf7 was an improvement.

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:56 pm

So why did he take on f3? I didn't think he needed to do that.
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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:57 pm

shouldn't Keith fans be getting remotely excited?

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Simon Ansell » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:58 pm

JustinHorton wrote:So why did he take on f3? I didn't think he needed to do that.
Maybe he was worried about 30... f5 31. Kg2 , when after the recapture on f3 with the king White can then play e4 dissolving the isolated pawns. Not that that's necessarily anything to be worried about. I can't think of another reason anyway.

Edit: although that is complete nonsense as ...Kg7 traps the bishop :oops:

Second edit: ah, maybe i have it - 30... f5 31. e4! Perhaps.
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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:58 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:shouldn't Keith fans be getting remotely excited?
Why? I don't see R+B v R happening in that one
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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:58 pm

I imagine I could find a way to lose with black against Howell, probably connected with the passed h-pawn. But we are expecting Hawkins to hold surely?

Given its now historic, the engine prefers black after nf7, it deals with ng5 by swapping rooks and playing qe7. one point being that nh7 is met, not by qh7??, but the very cold blooded kg7, when white has to liquidate to a position where the piece is a bit better than the three pawns.

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Simon Brown » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:59 pm

Any views on board 1? Looks very Arkellesque to me!

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:01 pm

Simon Brown wrote:Any views on board 1? Looks very Arkellesque to me!
It looks really good for white to me, which I suspect means I'm underestimating blacks play. But I really don't see anything active

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Post by Simon Ansell » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:03 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:I imagine I could find a way to lose with black against Howell, probably connected with the passed h-pawn. But we are expecting Hawkins to hold surely?
I'm not sure it's so simple to hold.

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:03 pm

Simon Ansell wrote:Second edit: ah, maybe i have it - 30... f5 31. e4! Perhaps.
Yes, I missed that. Are the connected passed pawns going to win that for White?
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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Paul McKeown » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:03 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Simon Brown wrote:Any views on board 1? Looks very Arkellesque to me!
It looks really good for white to me, which I suspect means I'm underestimating blacks play. But I really don't see anything active
Black's position looks a bit grotty, doesn't it? But he isn't completely tied in knots either. Arkell must have a decent chance, particularly given the clock situation.

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:07 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:I have the impression that the clocks are not working alongside the boards in many cases - quite a few people seem to have no time, while their opponents have between half an hour or even the full one hour and 40!

obviously in David Howell's case, the clock is right ....
guess who doesn't play with increments ... :?

how many of us would have found 29 Bxa6 to get the pawn back in kanwal's game (board 24 or so)?

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Re: British Championships 2012 - Games

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:10 pm

Simon Ansell wrote:
Paul Cooksey wrote:I imagine I could find a way to lose with black against Howell, probably connected with the passed h-pawn. But we are expecting Hawkins to hold surely?
I'm not sure it's so simple to hold.
I'm sure you are right it is not simple, but I was finding hard to find a plan for white without g4, when the pawn chain starts to look weak.

I suspect Howell is trying to do nothing before the time control, then will have a long think until he is playing on the increment again. :)