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Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:00 pm
by Mick Norris
I think so, yes, and particularly given the importance of having some of the top players involved

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:45 pm
by NickFaulks
Christopher Kreuzer wrote: Does that mean the results will appear in the May rating list?
No, they won't.

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:40 pm
by Mick Norris
Caruana wins Dortmund and goes over 2800 on next rating list

Current position here:
http://www.2700chess.com/

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:56 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
You beat me too it Mick! Great result and maybe he can climb further and challenge Aronian and Carlsen.

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:04 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
There is an argument that Caruana has caught up with Aronian already.....

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:28 pm
by Paolo Casaschi
Looking at the recent games Caruana looks like the player causing more troubles to Carlsen, more than Anand and Aronian. Definitely by far more than the self-proclaimed challenger Nakamura.

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:41 am
by Mick Norris
Grischuk has equaled his highest ever live rating of 2798.9 and needs to beat Navara with black today to go over 2800

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:06 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Paolo Casaschi wrote:Looking at the recent games Caruana looks like the player causing more troubles to Carlsen, more than Anand and Aronian. Definitely by far more than the self-proclaimed challenger Nakamura.
Do you think Caruana will react better to his loss to Carlsen than Nakamura did after his recent losses? Interesting to see what Mick pointed out about Grischuk about to maybe reach new heights. Could he also potentially challenge Carlsen?

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:11 pm
by Mick Norris
Grischuk lost to Navara

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:54 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Mick Norris wrote:Grischuk has equaled his highest ever live rating of 2798.9 and needs to beat Navara with black today to go over 2800
Maybe that explains his playing more like a 2300 than a 2800? :D

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:32 am
by Christopher Kreuzer
Looking at the latest 2700 live rating listing :

http://www.2700chess.com/

There are a number of younger players edging upwards. Yu Yangyi and Rapport.

There are 20 Russians with ratings over 2700, and now 5 Chinese players in that bracket. I wonder if that is the largest number ever from one country other than Russia. Is the day coming soon when China will have more elite Gms than Russia? (I presume Russia still leads with absolute number of active GMs?)

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:38 am
by Christopher Kreuzer
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Paolo Casaschi wrote:Looking at the recent games Caruana looks like the player causing more troubles to Carlsen, more than Anand and Aronian. Definitely by far more than the self-proclaimed challenger Nakamura.
Do you think Caruana will react better to his loss to Carlsen than Nakamura did after his recent losses? Interesting to see what Mick pointed out about Grischuk about to maybe reach new heights. Could he also potentially challenge Carlsen?
Looking back at this, it is safe to say that Caruana has bounced back with a vengeance and that loss to Carlsen didn't affect him at all.

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:07 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:(I presume Russia still leads with absolute number of active GMs?)
By a very considerable distance, too (though I don't have up to date figures)

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:01 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
The search form here:

http://ratings.fide.com/advseek.phtml

...gives 214 when you ask for Russian GMs. For China it is 34. India 36. England 35. Ukraine 81. Armenia 36. USA 82. Netherlands 33. Germany 82. France 46. Spain 43. Italy 12. Hungary 48. Bulgaria 34. Poland 38. I'm sure I've missed out some obvious large countries. Can't seem to find any country with more than 100 GMs except Russia. Total number of GMs from that search is 1461. (Downloading the entire database and sorting through it gives accurate figures, those above are including inactive players.)

Re: Timeline for 2800 ratings

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:10 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
Well, adding that all up gives 854, if my calculations are correct. That is, about 60% of all GMs come from the aforementioned 15 countries.