Media comments on chess

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:07 am

Chris Rice wrote:Just checked Chessdom site today Matt and they seem to be getting more sophisticated on the viewer tracking figures
It would have more credibility if it didn't quote Agon's wild extrapolation as fact.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Matt Fletcher » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:07 am

Chris Rice wrote:Just checked Chessdom site today Matt and they seem to be getting more sophisticated on the viewer tracking figures

http://www.chessdom.com/between-100-and ... every-day/

Got to be good news for chess whichever way you slice them up.
This is much better - at least they quote some sources and admit where they're simply guessing. I've asked them whether they've got a link to the 'official' TV figures.

Personally, I wouldn't count people picking up a newspaper that happens to have a report, or watching a news show with a 2 minute chess slot, as 'following' or even 'watching' the match but maybe others would.

I also agree with Roger that using the 600m figure without question leads one to wonder how much scrutiny they've given the other numbers.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:15 am

Matt Fletcher wrote: Personally, I wouldn't count people picking up a newspaper that happens to have a report, or watching a news show with a 2 minute chess slot, as 'following' or even 'watching' the match but maybe others would.
The problem with using such a method is that it would give similarly enhanced numbers for obscure Olympic disciplines that also get their five minutes of fame every four years.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Ian Kingston » Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:55 am

I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet (my non-chess-playing daughter alerted me to it):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25000282

It concerns apparent sabotage (by deliberate bad moves) of a Norway versus the Rest of the World online crowdsourced game organised by a Norwegian newspaper.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:30 pm

Matt Fletcher wrote: Personally, I wouldn't count people picking up a newspaper that happens to have a report, or watching a news show with a 2 minute chess slot, as 'following' or even 'watching' the match but maybe others would.
Clearly nobody who actually wanted to establish how many people are interested in the match would.

Ian Kingston wrote:I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet (my non-chess-playing daughter alerted me to it):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25000282

No doubt you mean 'anybody on here', but with this report - as with much else - a certain RDK was ahead of the game. He described the report as "amazing" iirc.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Ian Kingston » Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:50 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Matt Fletcher wrote: Personally, I wouldn't count people picking up a newspaper that happens to have a report, or watching a news show with a 2 minute chess slot, as 'following' or even 'watching' the match but maybe others would.
Clearly nobody who actually wanted to establish how many people are interested in the match would.

Ian Kingston wrote:I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet (my non-chess-playing daughter alerted me to it):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25000282
No doubt you mean 'anybody on here', but with this report - as with much else - a certain RDK was ahead of the game. He described the report as "amazing" iirc.
'Amazing': the all-purpose meaningless adjective of the modern era. I think RDK may have been ahead of the curve in the use of that word as well.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Matt Fletcher » Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:18 pm

City AM: "What chess champions can tell us about how businesses make decisions"

Also a mention in the BBC Sportsday (!) live feed (at 14:08) http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/25030420

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Ian Kingston » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:40 pm

The BBC reports on Carlsen's victory:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25057654

Did you know that Anatoly Karpov was the youngest player to win the title? Me neither. (It's possible that the error will be corrected in a later update - this version of the report was posted at 15:23 on 22 November.)

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Richard James » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:50 pm

Ian Kingston wrote:The BBC reports on Carlsen's victory:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25057654

Did you know that Anatoly Karpov was the youngest player to win the title? Me neither. (It's possible that the error will be corrected in a later update - this version of the report was posted at 15:23 on 22 November.)
They've now corrected it.

The youngest player to win the title was in fact Anatoly Kasparov. :lol:

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Richard James » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:01 pm

Corrected again - now Garry Kasparov.

However:

"Anand needed a straight three-game win to keep his title but entering the competition on Friday he conceded that it would take a miraculous turnaround to keep his chances alive."

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:17 pm

A schism in the chess-boxing world.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisstokelwalk ... hessboxing

Apparently the English/London organisation has either left or been expelled from the world body.

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by David Robertson » Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:47 pm

Well found, RdC. There's enough in that one article to keep the S&B crowd in copy for months. It has everything: sleaze, shabby buildings, political in-fighting, Tim Woolgar, raving lunacy and a puffing Penguin :D

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Matt Fletcher » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:00 pm

David Robertson wrote:Well found, RdC. There's enough in that one article to keep the S&B crowd in copy for months. It has everything: sleaze, shabby buildings, political in-fighting, Tim Woolgar, raving lunacy and a puffing Penguin :D
Don't forget made-up statistics - everyone knows that 84.7% of people love made-up statistics!

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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Anthony Higgs » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:06 pm

Susan Polgar was interviewed about Carlsen's victory by Eddie Mair on Radio 4's PM at about 17:20, not much of interest in the interview. There was some gentle mockery of the match commentary just before the chat.
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Re: Media comments on chess

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:31 pm

David Robertson wrote:Well found, RdC. There's enough in that one article to keep the S&B crowd in copy for months. It has everything: sleaze, shabby buildings, political in-fighting, Tim Woolgar, raving lunacy and a puffing Penguin :D
Are we talking chess boxing here or is this the new look ECF?

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