Re: Media comments on chess
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:10 pm
I think the original book by Pierre Boulle is not bad. Interestingly, he also wrote The Bridge Over The River Kwai. However, for me the films are rubbish.
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You don't often get a fork analogy. If I ever meet him, I'll try to explain zugzwang.Moby wrote:You know, you’re asking me to open up such a can of worms. It reminds me of my favourite chess move, which my uncle taught me, where you move your knight so that it puts the king in check but also is going to take the castle.” This is known as a fork. “There’s no good way to answer: one option is terrible, the other is really terrible. So if we were playing chess right now, this is the part where I’d pick up my phone and pretend I’ve got an emergency call.
Yes Matt, the late 60's. It was quite different from was on about then. I liked it.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:25 pmBy "the first film" in this instance do you mean the late 1960s original?
I couldn't access the link to the Guardian article so don't know what was said there but when I saw the context to the chess remarks Moby made in the Independent Online I have to say I was pretty disgusted. In his autobiography he said he dated Natalie Portman. She said she never did but recalls “a much older man being creepy with me”, adding: “He said I was 20; I definitely wasn’t. I was a teenager. I had just turned 18.” Turns out he was 34 at the time. The chess remarks he made were in relation to the backlash he received for this and how he tried to wriggle out of it.Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:57 pmAn interview in The Guardian with the musician Moby
You don't often get a fork analogy. If I ever meet him, I'll try to explain zugzwang.Moby wrote:You know, you’re asking me to open up such a can of worms. It reminds me of my favourite chess move, which my uncle taught me, where you move your knight so that it puts the king in check but also is going to take the castle.” This is known as a fork. “There’s no good way to answer: one option is terrible, the other is really terrible. So if we were playing chess right now, this is the part where I’d pick up my phone and pretend I’ve got an emergency call.
I had never heard of Moby but, to be fair to the man, he makes no effort to show himself in a good light.
Here is the correct Guardian link - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/ ... rug-addictPaul Cooksey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:57 pmAn interview in The Guardian with the musician Moby
You don't often get a fork analogy. If I ever meet him, I'll try to explain zugzwang.Moby wrote:You know, you’re asking me to open up such a can of worms. It reminds me of my favourite chess move, which my uncle taught me, where you move your knight so that it puts the king in check but also is going to take the castle.” This is known as a fork. “There’s no good way to answer: one option is terrible, the other is really terrible. So if we were playing chess right now, this is the part where I’d pick up my phone and pretend I’ve got an emergency call.
The original is full of ideas (thanks not least to Boulle), it looks fantastic, and it has any number of memorable sequences and images, including one of the great endings of cinema. I didn't know he wrote Bridge Over The River Kwai.Phil Neatherway wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:10 pmI think the original book by Pierre Boulle is not bad. Interestingly, he also wrote The Bridge Over The River Kwai. However, for me the films are rubbish.
Thanks Chris,Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:35 pm
"What is the minimum number of moves for a knight to go from a1 to h8 (i.e. between two opposite corners of the 8x8 chessboard)?"
What a strange comment to make when snooker players can resign the frame - it's called conceding in snooker. Hasn't Ronnie O'Sullivan done that once or twice when he didn't need snookers to win the frame?Stewart Reuben wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:15 pmWorld Snooker Championship on Eurosport tday.
Commentator:' If this were a chess game, Maflin might be inclined to resign'. I am sure he meant the individual frame, not the whole match.
I think it was Larsen who said top players like himself should only resign when it is obvious to the spectators why they have done so.Stewart Reuben wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:15 pmWorld Snooker Championship on Eurosport tday.
Commentator:' If this were a chess game, Maflin might be inclined to resign'. I am sure he meant the individual frame, not the whole match.
That was a very accurate analogy. In a spectator situation, Chess players often do resign too early, in my view.