Labour vs. UKIP

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Labour vs. UKIP

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by PeterTurland » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:46 am

Yeah but it is behind an expensive paywall, the day that micropayments gets going, is maybe the day, that chess players can finally earn a decent living at chess. Maybe that won't be long according to this.

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by John Swain » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:55 am

I see that Rachel Reeves last had a grade of 129 in 1997, as well as being a girls' champion. The Eagle twins, Angela and Maria, must have been of a similar standard some years before. That's the nucleus of a useful chess team for Labour and all female!

Are there any other parliamentarians whose chess playing skills are as good as these three women?

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by Matthew Turner » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:03 pm

This should provide you with a lot of info

http://www.chessscotland.com/archives/reidmp.htm

P.s. I wouldn't be surprised if Stuart Wheeler knew how to move the pieces pretty well, so I'd expect Rachel Reeves to win, but perhaps don't be too surprised if Stuart takes up the cahllenge.

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:15 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:This should provide you with a lot of info

http://www.chessscotland.com/archives/reidmp.htm

P.s. I wouldn't be surprised if Stuart Wheeler knew how to move the pieces pretty well, so I'd expect Rachel Reeves to win, but perhaps don't be too surprised if Stuart takes up the cahllenge.
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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by John Swain » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:17 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:This should provide you with a lot of info

http://www.chessscotland.com/archives/reidmp.htm
Thanks, Matthew. Alan Reid is not an MP I've heard of, but I see from your info that he must have been close to FM strength, so the Lib Dems have a strong board 1.

I've discovered that Alan went to Ayr Academy and was born in 1954 so was presumably a key member of the team which won the Sunday Times National Schools Championship in 1971 and 1972 and which was also second in 1970.

Any other current chess-playing parliamentarians whose strength can be verified?

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by Sean Hewitt » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:40 pm

Coservative MP for Warrington South http://www.davidmowat.org/

and his grading record http://www.englishchess.org.uk/ecfgradi ... 60140A#top

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:52 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote: honorary president of the English Chess Association"
The English Chess Association was set up by the Chess Correspondent of The Times when he left the BCF. Is it known to ever have organised or sponsored anything? It was last heard of in connection with BrainGames. Kingpin had some material which mentioned it.

ex PM James Callaghan did however take an interest in what was his local Congress, the Hastings International. One of the trophies is named after him.

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by John Swain » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:56 pm

Sean Hewitt wrote:Coservative MP for Warrington South http://www.davidmowat.org/

and his grading record http://www.englishchess.org.uk/ecfgradi ... 60140A#top
Interesting, Sean. The Conservatives' David Mowat has been playing competitively more recently than the others so far mentioned, it seems.

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by Simon Brown » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:19 pm

John Swain wrote:
I see that Rachel Reeves last had a grade of 129 in 1997, as well as being a girls' champion. The Eagle twins, Angela and Maria, must have been of a similar standard some years before.
Both Angela and Maria Eagle were much stronger players than Rachel.

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by Matt Fletcher » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:21 pm

Previous thread on Rachel Reeves, including a game from 1993:

http://ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5245

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by John Swain » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:49 pm

Simon Brown wrote:
John Swain wrote:
I see that Rachel Reeves last had a grade of 129 in 1997, as well as being a girls' champion. The Eagle twins, Angela and Maria, must have been of a similar standard some years before.
Both Angela and Maria Eagle were much stronger players than Rachel.
Do you have any grading info on these two? I see that Angela was British u18 girls' champion; was she somewhat stronger than Maria?

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by Ben Purton » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:57 pm

Surely the strongest chess player who is active in the politican scene is Jonathan Arnott who is the secretary of UKIP.
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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by Simon Brown » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:58 pm

John Swain wrote:
Simon Brown wrote:
John Swain wrote:
I see that Rachel Reeves last had a grade of 129 in 1997, as well as being a girls' champion. The Eagle twins, Angela and Maria, must have been of a similar standard some years before.
Both Angela and Maria Eagle were much stronger players than Rachel.
Do you have any grading info on these two? I see that Angela was British u18 girls' champion; was she somewhat stronger than Maria?
I don't have grading info. They are my contemporaries and we played in the same tournaments, though I don't think I actually played either. My recollection is that they were of similar strength and would have been 160ish in the late 1970s.

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Re: Labour vs. UKIP

Post by Paul McKeown » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:58 pm

ME Eagle, NAG Oxford, ref. 151084J, 123E (1994). But they were both rather higher than that at their peak.

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