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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:04 pm

Oh that's interesting. I think the policy has changed since then though.
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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:08 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:04 pm
I think the policy has changed since then though.
There was a titled player plausibly accused of OTB cheating (consulting a phone whilst away from the board). He was at the time one of the top Blitz or Bullet players on the chess.com server. He escaped OTB sanctions on a technicality.

A different policy for titled players perhaps?

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Tim Spanton » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:16 pm

I remember at the World Open in Philadelphia when a titled player - I cannot recall his name - was caught consulting an openings book at the bookstall during the early stages of his game against a much weaker opponent. He was given a time penalty of, I think, 20 minutes (and went on to win).
I can think of many occasions when a 20-minute penalty would have been a small price to pay for looking up a line in the latest relevant publication.

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:11 pm

Tim Spanton wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:16 pm
I remember at the World Open in Philadelphia
Roughly how long ago?

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Alex Holowczak » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:31 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:11 pm
Tim Spanton wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:16 pm
I remember at the World Open in Philadelphia
Roughly how long ago?
I remember the more innocent times of 2011, when the bookstall at the British Championships was situated behind a curtain in the playing area.

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Tim Spanton » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:18 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:11 pm
Tim Spanton wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:16 pm
I remember at the World Open in Philadelphia
Roughly how long ago?
Cannot recall exactly, but it would have been 1993, 1994, 1995 or 1999. If I had to guess, I would say 1999 or 1995.

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Paul McKeown » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:14 pm

On reading Justin's distressing news, I joined the forum at chess.com. Sort of what you might expect, lots of people accusing others, with the veneer that one must not name anyone. Some of it does look like cheating, but I was struck by the following correspondence game, both players over 2200, which is used as a test of one's ability to detect engine play:



On the basis of this game, White was apparently banned for cheating.

Well, call me daft if you will, but that just looks ridiculous. Both players play a bunch of book moves, then there's a bit of a stramash, nothing unheard of on say the lower boards of the London League, then Black blunders a piece in a very short game.

Can anyone point out the cheating, here?

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Gavin Hughes » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:15 pm

The funny thing is, because of cheating online this is intrinsically killing online chess and correspondence. Computers have become so strong people are put off from playing them. So people return to playing in clubs and congresses as it is perceived as an environment with the least amount of cheating. 20-30 years ago people bemoaned computers (in general) as the death of clubs and the 4NCL for attracting strong players away from county/club chess (apologies for lack of evidence). Looks like congress and club chess is picking up again.

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Roger Lancaster » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:29 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:14 pm
Well, call me daft if you will
I'm afraid the temptation is completely resistible as I entirely agree with you. Something's daft here but it's not you!

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Daniel Gormally » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:39 pm

Wasn't somebody thinking of suing them for allegedly copying the puzzle rush idea from his site? Michael Mkpadi I believe.

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Re: Chess.Com getting sued.

Post by Jon Tait » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:07 pm

Gavin Hughes wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:15 pm
The funny thing is, because of cheating online this is intrinsically killing online chess and correspondence. Computers have become so strong people are put off from playing them. So people return to playing in clubs and congresses as it is perceived as an environment with the least amount of cheating. 20-30 years ago people bemoaned computers (in general) as the death of clubs and the 4NCL for attracting strong players away from county/club chess (apologies for lack of evidence). Looks like congress and club chess is picking up again.
Using computers isn't cheating in correspondence chess.
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