Learning how to use ChessBase

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Paul Habershon
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Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Paul Habershon » Thu May 08, 2014 11:53 am

Perhaps there has been a thread about this before, but I wonder if there is a market for chess professionals/IT experts to run courses on using ChessBase. I know you can access lots of online tutorials, but I would prefer sitting in a small group, laptops plugged in, receiving instruction and being able to ask questions.

I am sure there must be many players like me, who can use ChessBase's simple functions (e.g. preparing for an opponent) but are fairly clueless about most of it. We need to be told what's most useful for an amateur and how to do it. There should be no assumption that all of us understand database paths, browsing, filtering, downloading, copying, cbh files and all the other features which are probably so simple for those in the know.

Such a course might work well at a 4NCL weekend where the venue has Training Suites set up with terminals and screens for this sort of teaching.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by MJMcCready » Thu May 08, 2014 4:37 pm

Or even the London Classic could have a few sessions as there are surely many others who barely know how to use it and many who would sign up for it.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

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Niall Doran
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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Niall Doran » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:12 pm

I haven't been able to find a review, other than the link above which may be biased as it's on the Chessbase website. Has any here read this book yet? Or found a review other than the one above?

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:17 pm

Well that's a good point Niall and in all probability the write up -not review as it is uncritical- is probably/only there to help sell the book.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Arshad Ali » Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:53 pm

Niall Doran wrote:I haven't been able to find a review, other than the link above which may be biased as it's on the Chessbase website. Has any here read this book yet? Or found a review other than the one above?
I have the book. It's good if you're an utter novice to the package. But the title's a misnomer -- it's not a comprehensive reference manual. There are features Edwards either elides over or covers in perfunctory form. Unfortunately, as far as I know, it's the only book on ChessBase. One would think the Chessbase people could come out with a reference manual.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:09 pm

Arshad Ali wrote:One would think the Chessbase people could come out with a reference manual.
The days seem long gone when for the price of packaged software, you also expected user manuals both telling you what the software could do and how you might use it for common tasks.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Michael Farthing » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:26 pm

Yeah, well it's all explained in the online help in 'it?

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Arshad Ali » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:13 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Arshad Ali wrote:One would think the Chessbase people could come out with a reference manual.
The days seem long gone when for the price of packaged software, you also expected user manuals both telling you what the software could do and how you might use it for common tasks.
What I've been noticing. If Spengler were to come out with a revised edition of his magnum opus, Decline of the West, maybe one further symptom he could point to would be the paucity of technical documentation for software.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Niall Doran » Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:04 pm

Chessbase are pretty much the reference for chess software and databases, so anyone doing any serious work has to buy their software. Knowing this, they're not going to waste time sitting down and writing a manual for next to zero return.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Arshad Ali » Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:34 pm

Niall Doran wrote:Chessbase are pretty much the reference for chess software and databases, so anyone doing any serious work has to buy their software. Knowing this, they're not going to waste time sitting down and writing a manual for next to zero return.
Dunno. They'd probably win over more people if they explained some of the fancy things you can do with CB. For example, I was unaware of the "similar structures" and "similar endgames" feature until Edwards mentioned them. Edwards wrote his phenomenal book, Sacking the Citadel," using CB12's search features.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Martyn Harris » Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:26 pm

Niall Doran wrote:I haven't been able to find a review, other than the link above which may be biased as it's on the Chessbase website. Has any here read this book yet? Or found a review other than the one above?
If you count customer reviews on Amazon, there are five on .com.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Philip Adams » Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:50 am

This criticism of Chessbase is very odd: CB12 comes with a 300+ page manual in pdf.

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Re: Learning how to use ChessBase

Post by Niall Doran » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:35 pm

Apologies for, unbeknownst to myself, talking nonsense.

I'd be interested in buying Chessbase, but was always put off by all the talk of it being hard to get to grips with and there being no proper manual to help out.

I'm curious now, though. If there's a 300-page manual, what the difference between that and the book that's been reviewed on the Chessbase website?
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