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Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:29 pm
by Roger de Coverly
A link from the thread about David Howell

http://ratings.fide.com/tourney.phtml?field1=410608

Don't think that's correct !

Whether it's Hastings, ECF or FIDE at fault, I wouldn't know.

It seems to apply to everyone who played at Hastings though for example

http://ratings.fide.com/tourney.phtml?field1=404802

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:47 pm
by Richard Bates
Roger de Coverly wrote:A link from the thread about David Howell

http://ratings.fide.com/tourney.phtml?field1=410608

Don't think that's correct !

Whether it's Hastings, ECF or FIDE at fault, I wouldn't know.

It seems to apply to everyone who played at Hastings though for example

http://ratings.fide.com/tourney.phtml?field1=404802
It's not just duplication. (they appear to have been rated once on the basis of the October list and once on the basis of the January list)

I have been given a loss in round nine, a game in which i won. I wondered why they never got round to sending me any prize money... :roll:

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:01 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
This is truly loopy. I can't say I would mind getting back to 2375 or so, but my results haven't yet deserved it.

Maybe they're practising for when the K factors double. :D

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:16 pm
by Richard Bates
If it's the ECF do we get a refund to our membership fee?

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:22 pm
by Sean Hewitt
I dont know if anyone has noticed but it's not really a duplication.

One set of results has been rated as the Hastings Masters - the other as the Hastings Weekend Open. This also corresponds with the point about October / January rating lists as the Masters started in December (so uses the Oct list, whilst the Weekender started in Jan, using the Jan list). Myself and a friend both played in the Weekend Open - and neither of us is showing any games from Hastings at all!

Which rather suggests that someone edited the header data on the Masters rating file to prepare it for the Weekend data, but forgot to change the actual data itself!!

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:05 pm
by Richard Bates
Who is technically responsible? I assume that the results pass through the ECF rating officer before FIDE get hold of them.

Basically i would rather like my round 9 loss to be reversed - but who do i contact to pre-empt publication?

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:25 pm
by Leonard Barden
The contact details for the new ECF International Rating Officer, Ray Ryan Foster, are on the ECF website.

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:37 pm
by Ben Purton
Ray Ryan is a really good guy, wont get any of the dodgy rating reports like we did in the Paul Keevil days.

Ben

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Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:02 am
by Howard Grist
This has now been corrected

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:21 pm
by Richard Bates
Howard Grist wrote:This has now been corrected
Well, partly. My rating is still wrong...

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:07 pm
by Howard Grist
Richard,

The results supplied by the event arbiter, Alex McFarlane, state that you lost in the last round - even if the event web site and PGN say otherwise. You will need to contact Ray Ryan Foster about this if you have not already done so.

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:52 pm
by Alex McFarlane
I had left Hastings before the last round (had to return to work). The wrong result with regard to Richard's game was sent to me to complete the paperwork. When I was informed of this I corrected the info and passed it on. Howard can you do something about this or should I contact David Welch (who looked after the last two rounds)?
I don't understand why the old data should have reached FIDE.

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:17 pm
by Howard Grist
I have now told Ray about this. He's the only person who can correct it.

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:29 pm
by Richard Bates
Thanks.

Re: Hastings Rating Duplication

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:07 pm
by Carl Hibbard
Howard Grist wrote:I have now told Ray about this. He's the only person who can correct it.
Is there a chance of Ray registering on this forum and coming online then Howard?