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Re: Swindling

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:38 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
Rob Thompson wrote:Chess, to me, tells a story (which you can tell if you ever hear me analyse). Swindles, then, are analogous to the hero slaying the dragon, rescuing the princess, and then falling down the stairs on the way out - it just doesn't fit with the flow of the game.
You obviously haven't been in the same RPG groups as me. :D

Re: Swindling

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:18 am
by Christopher Kreuzer
IM Jack Rudd wrote:I think my game against Gosling is a swindle by Jonathan's definition, come to think of it. 1...Nf4 not only sets up my own threat, but it undefends f8 - forcing me to meet 2.Qd6+ with 2...Ke8 - and it also undefends e7, tempting white into the suicidal 3.Bd8??. If I hadn't gone to f4 with the knight, white wouldn't have been able to see the quick finish that was apparently on.
I may have missed it somewhere, but is the game by Jack against Gosling around here somewhere, or is it on another site? Jack, do you have the moves available? Ah, OK, I did what I should have done first, either read Jonathan Rogers' Kingpin article, or searched here. I found this:

http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php ... ing#p41730

Re: Swindling

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:47 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
Well, here's a truly monumental effort in this category.


Re: Swindling

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:01 pm
by Joey Stewart
That's a really big comeback, it seemed like you always managed to have some tactics up your sleeve no matter how winning the position was for white

Re: Swindling

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:16 pm
by NickFaulks
Who needs OTB chess when you can have this?

Re: Swindling

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:21 pm
by Kevin Thurlow
Awesome, Jack - I would be proud of that.

Re: Swindling

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:11 pm
by Stephen Westmoreland
Love it.

Re: Swindling

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:55 pm
by Graham Borrowdale
Criminal!!

Re: Swindling

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:05 pm
by Brian Egdell
That come-back from early hopeless material disadvantage reminds me of this embarrassment, also from chess.com but this time a correspondence ("daily") game. Obviously I'm not in Jack Rudd's class by any stretch, but my opponent here was rated over 2300 and I was delighted to emerge from the opening a rook for 2 pawns up after a simple blunder from my opponent. Delighted for a while, anyway.


Re: Swindling

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:18 pm
by Nick Ivell
Possibly my best swindle was against Terry Chapman at the British. Southport 83 or Edinburgh 85, I forget which.

Diligent diggers may be able to unearth it!

Re: Swindling

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:40 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Nick Ivell wrote:
Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:18 pm
Possibly my best swindle was against Terry Chapman at the British. Southport 83 or Edinburgh 85, I forget which.
This would seem to be a critical position

Black to play and retain an advantage.



Whole game

Re: Swindling

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:45 pm
by Nick Ivell
Thanks for uploading Roger!