Cheating in chess

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Christopher Kreuzer
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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:45 pm

Any link to the game itself? (So I can use it against the next GM I play!)

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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:00 pm

Kramnik seems to have gone down a real rabbit hole regarding this, it is sad to see.
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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by Matthew Turner » Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:51 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:45 pm
Any link to the game itself? (So I can use it against the next GM I play!)
The game is here https://www.chess.com/game/live/103416156517

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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:30 pm

That game is proof of cheating? By which player?
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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by Roger Lancaster » Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:01 pm

The point has been made before, so I'll keep the post brief. If someone is a sophisticated online cheat (meaning that they get outside assistance only, say, two or three times in a game) then it's virtually impossible to determine this with anything approaching near-certainty because there's the alternative possibility (perhaps a remote one but one which can't be discounted) that they just got lucky - by which I mean they legitimately found moves which someone of their playing strength wouldn't be expected to find - on those two or three moves. If someone keeps doing this over many games then the 'luck' explanation becomes less and less plausible. But, unless there's a preponderance of unsophisticated cheats who follow Stockfish or similar for move after move, I admit to being puzzled how so many people can decide their opponent is cheating on the basis of a single game.

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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by Chris Rice » Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 pm

Ameet Ghasi, one of the nicest and most honest guys you will ever meet, beat Kramnik at Titled Tuesday and inevitably was subject to the usual from Kramnik afterwards. On social media Ameet has taken it well and would probably laugh at it if it wasn't for the nagging feeling that someone might think there is something in it.

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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by Simon Rogers » Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:46 pm

Sad news about the death of Igors Rausis, which I have just reported in the Deaths & Obituaries Category.

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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:29 pm

Kramnik banned for 3 months for playing Titled Tuesday on someone else's account: https://twitter.com/chesscom/status/177 ... 98/photo/1

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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:48 pm

The person whose account he used (GM Denis Khismatullin) was banned indefinitely!

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Re: Cheating in chess

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:02 pm

As one might say to a certain other prominent Russian right now - stop it Vlad!
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