It's an obstacle though and your anti-cheating arbiter can note the frequent spectator interest.Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:03 pmSo there's no real gain to be had for delaying the broadcast.
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Indeed. The problem is there are that many players, and that few arbiters, that we can't realistically keep track of that anyway.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:07 pmIt's an obstacle though and your anti-cheating arbiter can note the frequent spectator interest.Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:03 pmSo there's no real gain to be had for delaying the broadcast.
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This question also occurred to me - can anyone answer?E Michael White wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:38 pmScanning wands seem to be metal detectors; why is it assumed that an information receiving device contains metal ?
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Never heard of a wooden microchip
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Possibly because one that doesn't has never been caught!E Michael White wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:38 pmScanning wands seem to be metal detectors; why is it assumed that an information receiving device contains metal?
More seriously, I have read that the security services are troubled by the proliferation of things that do not interest a metal detector.
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I'm the last person to claim expertise here but I think silicon, for example, is a metalloid - being neither a metal nor a "non-metal".
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If E Michael White asks a question like that, it is serious.
Silicon is a metalloid.
Security services are indeed concerned by things that are not metal. Guns made entirely of plastics are available. That's one of the reasons Airport Security staff aggressively search people in a legalised indecent assault manner.
Silicon is a metalloid.
Security services are indeed concerned by things that are not metal. Guns made entirely of plastics are available. That's one of the reasons Airport Security staff aggressively search people in a legalised indecent assault manner.
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There are some new guidelines as to how 4NCL events will be policed.
http://www.4ncl.co.uk/download/special/ ... Policy.pdf
There's a logical hole in them. Having brought a device into the playing area and placed it in a bag, there's no statement as to how you remove it once your game is completed.
Another practical one. Having finished the game and retired to your hotel room with full access to analysis facilities, you observe that one of the games remaining in a team match has reached an endgame tablebase position. You look it up. To what extent should you be precluded from discussing the assessment with the rest of your team?
Another thought occurred to me is that monitoring Bluetooth and wireless signals may be necessary. Probably not so easy with all the signals from arbiter's devices and DGT Boards.
http://www.4ncl.co.uk/download/special/ ... Policy.pdf
There's a logical hole in them. Having brought a device into the playing area and placed it in a bag, there's no statement as to how you remove it once your game is completed.
Another practical one. Having finished the game and retired to your hotel room with full access to analysis facilities, you observe that one of the games remaining in a team match has reached an endgame tablebase position. You look it up. To what extent should you be precluded from discussing the assessment with the rest of your team?
Another thought occurred to me is that monitoring Bluetooth and wireless signals may be necessary. Probably not so easy with all the signals from arbiter's devices and DGT Boards.
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100% better than not having guidelines
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Roger >Another practical one. Having finished the game and retired to your hotel room with full access to analysis facilities, you observe that one of the games remaining in a team match has reached an endgame tablebase position. You look it up. To what extent should you be precluded from discussing the assessment with the rest of your team? <
Having left the playing venue at the Olympiad, you are not allowed to re-enter without permission. This particularly applies to the non-playing captain.
In all international events, you are not allowed to leave the playing area when it is your move.
Having left the playing venue at the Olympiad, you are not allowed to re-enter without permission. This particularly applies to the non-playing captain.
In all international events, you are not allowed to leave the playing area when it is your move.
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Amazon sends me a daily list of things they want me to buy.
Today they are all hand-held metal detectors...
High Performance Portable Hand Held Metal Detector MCD-3003B1 is the cheapest. (£10 - 15, depending on special offers)
Edit - (Other suppliers and detectors are available.)
Today they are all hand-held metal detectors...
High Performance Portable Hand Held Metal Detector MCD-3003B1 is the cheapest. (£10 - 15, depending on special offers)
Edit - (Other suppliers and detectors are available.)
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All tournament organisers should supply a scanner. If buying one make sure that it has a sound on/off option.
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They conflict with the 4NCL rules to some extent, which presumably take precedence at the 4NCL, despite what the policy says in its Scope section. For example, the 4NCL rules require electronic devices brought into the playing venue by a player to be placed in a bag under the player's table. These guidelines only restrict what can be done with electronic devices in the playing area; you can store them anywhere you like that's in the playing venue but outside the playing area.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:59 pmThere are some new guidelines as to how 4NCL events will be policed.
http://www.4ncl.co.uk/download/special/ ... Policy.pdf
The restrictions on communication during games also seem excessive to me. Two players in one team cannot, for example, discuss the likely results of games in a different match that matters to them. Nor can a player ask anyone, other than an arbiter or hotel staff member, what the result of any finished game was if they're still playing.
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The hotel staff members know this stuff?
"Do you play chess?"
"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
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"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."
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No of course they don't. At the end of every match table there is a result sheet placed there by the arbiters. Provided that players fill in their result when their game has finished it's easy to follow progress in any match.