Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:45 pm
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Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:09 pm
I'll just check my scorebooks...
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:11 pm
Some of my games against you seemed that long but I suspect they weren'tKeith Arkell wrote:I'll just check my scorebooks...
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:18 pm
There was a game between Hartston and Basman, possibly in a British Ch playoff, which came down to this same ending. White's mistake in the game in this thread was to push his a pawn up the board. Crucially he loses the option to check on the a file. I think he finally realised that when he decided to jettison it after spending ages getting it to a7.
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:41 pm
The Slater Young Masters at Southend in 1968.Keith Arkell wrote:There was a game between Hartston and Basman, possibly in a British Ch playoff, which came down to this same ending.
At the end Basman falls into a drawing cheapo, whilst 80 Rh7 is mate in 12 according to engines.
As Keith suggests, the winning idea is to give up the pawn in circumstances where the RB v R ending is won.
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:57 pm
Ah thanks Roger - yes that was it!
I think in the featured game the position was actually drawn when Black took the a-pawn. The position is always winning with the a-pawn on the board( barring stalemates and freak set ups) , but the method can be quite complex, whereas if you force the Black King back while resisting pushing the a pawn up the board the win is quite simple. However, Mike Basman's pawn was already up the board so he would have had to be a bit clever to convert (and I'm sure he would have been had he not allowed the stalemate).
I think in the featured game the position was actually drawn when Black took the a-pawn. The position is always winning with the a-pawn on the board( barring stalemates and freak set ups) , but the method can be quite complex, whereas if you force the Black King back while resisting pushing the a pawn up the board the win is quite simple. However, Mike Basman's pawn was already up the board so he would have had to be a bit clever to convert (and I'm sure he would have been had he not allowed the stalemate).
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:25 pm
Mate in 12 from 80 Rh7+ - how do you do that, then?
Sorry, I mean, Keith, how have you done that?
Sorry, I mean, Keith, how have you done that?
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:42 pm
This is how Houdini would have finished things off in the Basman - Hartston game.
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:00 pm
Haha, Roger saved me from that one, but I do know the method, and have had very similar finishes to this. Hard to do it in precisely the 12 moves though.Jonathan Rogers wrote:Mate in 12 from 80 Rh7+ - how do you do that, then?
Sorry, I mean, Keith, how have you done that?
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:28 pm
In the game posted by Lawrence, 203...Rc6+ draws. 230 Rc5 wins. I have no doubt there were other immediate results I didn't notice. Why did Black resign the final position, or did he lose on time?
Re: Longest decisive game ever played?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:50 pm
Presumably Re8 - Bc5+ - Ra8 can't be avoided without abanonding the seventh rank and allowing Ra1?Stewart Reuben wrote:. Why did Black resign the final position