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"Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:40 pm
by JustinHorton
According to
this piece in the Grauniad a couple of weeks ago.
Is this claim in any way based on reality?
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:53 pm
by Richard James
To the best of my knowledge Chris Flintoff played for the England U11 team.
According to
http://www.cricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/ ... 55374.html Freddie himself played for Lancashire U11s.
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:56 pm
by JustinHorton
Cheers Richard. Do you know when that would be, who against, whether he ever had a grade and that sort of thing?
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:59 pm
by Richard James
Not sure. I can try to look up the grading info for you.
I presume it was one of these EPSCA matches. EPSCA have for many years run U11 international matches. The top players sometimes get trips abroad but there are also matches against Wales for those who don't make the main team. So every year 20-30 U11s get the chance to play for England.
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:08 pm
by JustinHorton
If you're able and it's not too much trouble. The author of the piece has been kind enough to reply to an email I've sent her on the subject so I'd like to get all my information straight.
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:15 pm
by Alex Holowczak
Maybe Flintoff could be contacted re: Presidency? He's retiring from Test cricket, so he'd be available...
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:16 pm
by JustinHorton
Now isn't that an idea.
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:48 pm
by Geoff Chandler
I have a very good friend who is an offical cricket scorer and attends many
of these matches. I've fired off an email to see if she (yes it's a she) can get a contact.
Geoff
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:03 pm
by Richard James
Geoff
How did you get hold of my c.1965 passport photograph?
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:41 am
by Richard James
Justin
I'm afraid I don't have the information you require. I only have national lists from about 1988 onwards, before that union grades were published separately so I only have the SCCU lists. Christopher Flintoff's birth was registered in Preston in the 3rd quarter of 1974 so you'd need the NCCU lists for the mid 1980s. I suppose Richard Haddrell might have them, alternatively you'll need to speak to the Lancashire/NCCU grading people.
Richard
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:13 am
by JustinHorton
Thanks anyway for looking.
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:30 am
by Richard Haddrell
Richard James wrote:I suppose Richard Haddrell might have them, alternatively you'll need to speak to the Lancashire/NCCU grading people.
I haven't got any NCCU lists. There are no Flintoffs in the (rather thin) 1986 BCF list.
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:53 pm
by Simon Ansell
Somewhat related, I heard Adam Gilchrist interviewed on Radio 5 this morning, he was talking about how competitive he is and mentioned playing chess against his dad when he was young.
Re: "Flintoff's brother even played chess for England"
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:19 pm
by Martin Cruickshank