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Re: Health benefits of brain games

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:49 pm
by Jonathan Bryant
Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:42 am
John Foley's not got a good track record, has he?
I’m afraid not. I asked him a few years back to provide supporting evidence for his claims. He didn’t then. I quite sure he won’t now if you asked him.

The real tragedy of all this - as per my previous comments earlier in this thread - is that there are very good arguments to support provision of chess programmes for older people as well as other activities. There’s absolutely no reason to bull**it / sell the snake oil

Re: Health benefits of brain games

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:23 pm
by John Foley
Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:42 am
John Foley's not got a good track record, has he?
Mick Norris's not got a good track record, has he?

Re: Health benefits of brain games

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:58 pm
by J T Melsom
An excellent example of the health benefits of chess that last response. :lol:

Re: Health benefits of brain games

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:16 pm
by John Foley
So far, no studies have shown that brain training prevents dementia. However, this is a relatively new area of research and most studies have been too small and too short to test any effect of brain training on the development of cognitive decline or dementia.

Evidence suggests that brain training may help older people to manage their daily tasks better, but longer term studies are needed to understand what effect, if any, these activities may have on a person’s likelihood of developing dementia.

Re: Health benefits of brain games

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:48 pm
by J T Melsom
Where do the above paragraphs come from please? Are there intended as a correction or simply amplification of the claims made in the article circulated by the ECF. I read them as a correction since they provide no scientific citation which was what those challenging the article were after.

Re: Health benefits of brain games

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:56 pm
by JustinHorton
It's from the Alzheimer's Society. I have no idea what point John Foley thinks he is making by citing it.

Re: Health benefits of brain games

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:03 pm
by Jonathan Bryant
J T Melsom wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:48 pm
I read them as a correction since they provide no scientific citation which was what those challenging the article were after.
The quote also fails to provide any explanation as to why ‘chess’ and ‘brain training’ should be treated as the same thing


Article on brain training from 2014 here >

http://streathambrixtonchess.blogspot.c ... r.html?m=1

It includes the following observation.

We can no more assume that the terms 'chess' and 'brain training computer software' are interchangeable than we can decide that 'board games' and 'chess' mean exactly the same thing.


For those interested some Relevant research - actual journal articles - is listed here >>

http://streathambrixtonchess.blogspot.c ... e.html?m=1

Re: Health benefits of brain games

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:56 pm
by Jonathan Bryant
Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:03 pm


Article on brain training from 2014 here >

http://streathambrixtonchess.blogspot.c ... r.html?m=1
Cochrane Reviews - people who do proper science - are going to publish another review of brain training and dementia soon (see: the very end of https://www.cochrane.org/news/preventin ... -have-role)

It will be an interesting read. Not that brain training auto equals chess or vice versa.

Meantime, perhaps we can encourage people to play chess and provide opportunities for them to do so and cease the nonsense?