Chess people talking down to you

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Chess people talking down to you

Post by John Reyes » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:30 am

Just wanted to ask a question

has anyone from the chess world, has ever talk down to you and you feel that there actions was wrong?
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Re: chess people talking down to you

Post by MartinCarpenter » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:36 am

Given the number of chess players most of us have talked to combined with the frequency of dubious social skills in the collective population?

You might need to be a bit more specific :)

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Re: chess people talking down to you

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:57 am

John Reyes wrote:Just wanted to ask a question

has anyone from the chess world, has ever talk down to you and you feel that there actions was wrong?

Yes, lots. The chess world attracts some strange and wonderful people. Well 'wonderful', maybe.


On the upside there are some good guys. So for example, Keith Arkell offering a post mortem after I wasted a couple of hours of his time at Penarth a few years back. That was very generous of him. Essentially a free chess lesson for me.

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Post by John McKenna » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:05 pm

Once had a brief but stern talking to by a player who I'd lost badly to - he was very critical of many of my moves.

He was right as I had played rubbish.

However, it was almost as if he was complaining that I'd not given him a good enough game and wasted his time and he had, summarily, to let me know how underwhelming playing me had been for him.

After that I never did it again - cross his path that is - and steadfastly remain a garbage man to this day.
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Re: chess people talking down to you

Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:06 pm

You can find a fair number of examples if you look through this Forum.

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Re: chess people talking down to you

Post by John Reyes » Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:06 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:Given the number of chess players most of us have talked to combined with the frequency of dubious social skills in the collective population?

You might need to be a bit more specific :)

it was just after an election and I went to him to shake his hand to say no hard felling and why I put myself forward, then he started to talk down to me, and only because I'm the bigger person, I did not swing for him.
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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by John McKenna » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:02 am

That you did not take a swing at him shows admirable restraint, John.

At first I thought you might have had an argument over a game of chess.

As we well know, here, chess politics raises peoples' backs (as when cats get angry) even more than chess itself.

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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by Jon Mahony » Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:44 pm

At the Leeds Congress, I once had a certain, well known Lancashire player, storm out of the open room (where he had insisted on having his game moved to, because of “noise” in the Major area) and shout in my face for giving bus directions to another player, at a level of volume he deemed unacceptable. I was too shocked to take a swing though :wink:
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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:15 pm

Jon Mahony wrote:At the Leeds Congress, I once had a certain, well known Lancashire player
I'm surprised you let them over the border Jon :lol:
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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by Jon Mahony » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:24 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Jon Mahony wrote:At the Leeds Congress, I once had a certain, well known Lancashire player
I'm surprised you let them over the border Jon :lol:
I was dead set against it, voted down though :wink: :lol:
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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by John Upham » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:55 am

I recall being talked down to by Jan Hein Donner try as I might to avoid that.
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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:04 pm

Didn't he talk down to everybody, god bless him?
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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by John Upham » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:07 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:Didn't he talk down to everybody, god bless him?

He looked down upon Ronnie Corbett but up to John Cleese.

Not so sure about Ronnie Barker ?
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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:01 pm

Wasn't he a tall b***er? And of fairly aristocratic heritage which of course fits the "other" meaning.
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Re: Chess people talking down to you

Post by John Upham » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:14 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:Wasn't he a tall b***er? And of fairly aristocratic heritage which of course fits the "other" meaning.

I don't think JHD was ever a butler unlike Reg Varney.

Butler was not well liked by Stephen Lewis.
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