My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

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My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Steven DuCharme » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:14 am

To eliminate quick mates I propose the following new chess rule "You may not move a non-pawn onto your opponent's side of the board until all your non-pawns have been moved at least once" "No draw offers during that time either" So may it be posted. So may it be implemented globally :twisted:
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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:22 am

Steven DuCharme wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:14 am
To eliminate quick mates
Why? Have you recently been victimised by such a thing?

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Steven DuCharme » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:39 am

No,I just think quick mates should be slowed.
I float like a pawn island and sting like an ignored knight :mrgreen:

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:26 am

"To eliminate quick mates I propose the following new chess rule "You may not move a non-pawn onto your opponent's side of the board until all your non-pawns have been moved at least once" "

I know a couple of players who do that.

Here's a challenge though - construct a game where you can deliver mate whilst complying with the above rule, I assume you could march the king up to the 4th rank and hem it in with other pawns/pieces. I'm too lazy to work it out.

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by MJMcCready » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:41 pm

Aren't puzzles a better source of originality and ideas, like the one below which, admittedly, I couldn't solve.
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From this position, White retracts his last move, then Black retracts his and replaces it with a move that permits White to mate him immediately.

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:58 pm

MJMcCready wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:41 pm
Aren't puzzles a better source of originality and ideas, like the one below which, admittedly, I couldn't solve.



From this position, White retracts his last move, then Black retracts his and replaces it with a move that permits White to mate him immediately.
That is not difficult. I solved it in less than a minute. Shall I give hints?

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:23 pm



That is without any pieces or pawns being beyond the third rank, I win! :D

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:28 pm

This must be possible: construct a game in as few moves as possible where one side is mated and only the kings and pawns have been moved. No promotions allowed.

(I've managed to construct a game doing this with White mating Black on the fifth move. Unfortunately it is not unique, as two of the White moves can be swapped in the order of moves.)

Has anyone tried to calculate the number of possible mates after five moves? It is quite a lot, I think, though probably problems have been composed based on most of them.
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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:34 pm

I knew someone would! And I guessed who...

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:45 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
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I knew someone would! And I guessed who...
Tsk. That is trivial. Try mating using only your pawns. It can be done in five moves with White, but you do have to move them to the other side of the board. (This is the same as the problem I posed above.)

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by MJMcCready » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:50 pm

Ok, so mate in 6, white can only move the king.
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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:33 pm

That's nice. Still too easy. :wink:

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:13 pm

Ah yes, I've solved the position with two kings now. Very cute.

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Re: My Mostest Brilliantest Chess Idea Ever

Post by Jon Tait » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:25 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:13 pm
Ah yes, I've solved the position with two kings now. Very cute.
yes, me too – but it took me ages :oops:
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