Re: Snow Cancellations
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:16 am
I am told Lancs won 7-5 with Jeff winning in 80 moves
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I thought that Tom Thorpe had been appointed as Controller. Is that not the case? Are the finals going to be held at Warwick?Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:14 amOnly by people who haven't read the rules, or are trying to cause a kerfuffle. The rules are on the previous year's page, and they haven't changed.Michael Flatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:06 amI'm impressed at how speedily SCCU captains are managing to reschedule their matches that were weather affected.
I should be in a position to confirm SCCU nominations for the ECF competition shortly after receiving results of matches that will be played on the 24th March.
There does remain uncertainty, however, over the dates of the ECF County Championships since they are not yet available on the ECF website:
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/competit ... onships-2/
Of course, if there were a Controller, things might appear on that page already.
On the federation website listing officials he only appears as "Manager of Arbiters" http://www.englishchess.org.uk/about/ecf-officials/Neil Graham wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:25 pm
I thought that Tom Thorpe had been appointed as Controller. Is that not the case?
He had indeed. And then he read the comments from various people on here in response to the County Championship consultation, and decided he was better off focusing his energies elsewhere. So I found another role for him, which worked out quite nicely given Geoff Gammon has recently been ill.Neil Graham wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:25 pmI thought that Tom Thorpe had been appointed as Controller. Is that not the case? Are the finals going to be held at Warwick?Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:14 amOnly by people who haven't read the rules, or are trying to cause a kerfuffle. The rules are on the previous year's page, and they haven't changed.Michael Flatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:06 amI'm impressed at how speedily SCCU captains are managing to reschedule their matches that were weather affected.
I should be in a position to confirm SCCU nominations for the ECF competition shortly after receiving results of matches that will be played on the 24th March.
There does remain uncertainty, however, over the dates of the ECF County Championships since they are not yet available on the ECF website:
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/competit ... onships-2/
Of course, if there were a Controller, things might appear on that page already.
This does not surprise me. As I've said before it was privilege to be involved with such a historic event for four years (to the point where I might just qualify for a mention in a footnote) and the general majority of county captains were polite and respectful. However I ultimately became fed up of the repeated pedantry and complaints from a number of individuals (and a certain county union) to the point where I'm not sorry to be out of it. I might have offered to step into the breach if there weren't too many other demands on my time at present; unfortunately my chess and non chess workload is piling up.Alex Holowczak wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:18 pmAnd then he read the comments from various people on here in response to the County Championship consultation, and decided he was better off focusing his energies elsewhere.
That comment may or not be aimed at me amongst others, but if it is, you bet that I shall take that view.Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:53 pmSome of the comments on the consultation thread were atrocious; if the competition collapses due to the lack of a controller I suspect many will take the view that it is not their fault.
I cannot help feeling that effectively ruling a whole match defaulted because of the board order of a player without a published grade (or was it someone having the temerity to play without being an ECF member) and demanding that a player without a current published grade be required clearance to play in an Open competition is the ECF itself setting the bar for pedantry.Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:53 pmHowever I ultimately became fed up of the repeated pedantry and complaints from a number of individuals (and a certain county union) to the point where I'm not sorry to be out of it.
I try not to overplay the `poor little volunteer` card because a) as far as the county championships are concerned my contribution has been relatively negligible and b) it is my choice to volunteer.Graham Borrowdale wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:59 amWhile I don't disagree with the sentiments behind Andrew's comments, it does become a bit tiresome to read this 'you are lucky to have such hard working volunteers' rant time after time. I know we are. However, most chess players are extremely grateful for the work put in by organisers, and most take the time to thank them for their efforts.
Keep up the good work, but don't forget, we are all on the same side.
Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:55 pmeverybody involved needs to have a long hard look at what culture has evolved.
Thank you for the compliment. I too regret the drawn swords and I have sought to be restrained in my more recent comments.Andrew Zigmond wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:55 pmI'm sorry to found myself at drawn swords with David Sedgwick who has done more English chess than most but when a flagship event is struggling to attract a controller everybody involved needs to have a long hard look at what culture has evolved.
I had the idea one of the proposals involved moving the Union stages to being the responsibility of the ECF, or equivalently with the National competition running during the same time period, and allowing every county to enter.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:34 pmHowever, I stand by my suggestion that it would be in the best interests of the ECF Counties Championships if the responsibility for the National Stages were transferred from the Director of Home Chess to a Committee of the five Unions.
I was referring to what, in my view, needs to happen once the proposals to which you refer have been withdrawn, or rejected at the forthcoming ECF Council Meeting.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:26 pmI had the idea one of the proposals involved moving the Union stages to being the responsibility of the ECF, or equivalently with the National competition running during the same time period, and allowing every county to enter.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:34 pmHowever, I stand by my suggestion that it would be in the best interests of the ECF Counties Championships if the responsibility for the National Stages were transferred from the Director of Home Chess to a Committee of the five Unions.
I wonder a bit. The SCCU are quite happy yes and others OK but..... The NCCU obviously isn't and (I think?) the MCCU doesn't even have an open competition these days.David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:34 pmWhatever "cultural" issues there may be, they don't seem to apply to the Union Championships.