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What do I do?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:34 pm

Hi.
Today, I held another veterans tournamment in my club, as I do on Fridays (which are weekends).
I use swiss manager for pairing. It's been the second time in a row that I remove the player from an ongoing tournament (pairing->remove)and someone else is "withdrawn temporarily" from the tournament along the way.
I am posting since I found nothing pertinent on the internet.
It's a bit embarrassing and harming my business.
What's the reason and how show I remove him/her from the tournament?

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Re: What do I do?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:48 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:34 pm
What's the reason and how show I remove him/her from the tournament?
I thought the usual approach was just to show them as a 0 point bye for the unplayed rounds. That's what chess-results does.

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Re: What do I do?

Post by Alex Holowczak » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:54 pm

Pairing -> Remove isn't an option on my copy of Swiss-Manager, so I don't really know what you've done.

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Re: What do I do?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:07 am

But what to do if a player wants no to play in the next round(s), or you mistakenly added him or her after round 1?

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Post by Alex Holowczak » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:06 pm

What should happen is that they tell you in advance that they want to withdraw from a round before you do the pairings. So you just go to Pairings -> Exclude Player, and exclude the player from the rounds that the player wants to be excluded from.

If you've already paired the round, then if it is FIDE-rated, you cannot change the pairing unilaterally. So the other player just wins by default. If you and the players decide you just want to re-pair two players who have won by default to give them a game, then go to Pairings -> Set New Player, and you can manually adjust the pairings for the round in question.

I understand the Iranian Federation runs wide-ranging arbiter training courses, which cover topics in addition to those formally required by FIDE. One of them is the use of Swiss-Manager. Why not contact your Federation and try to go on one?

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Re: What do I do?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:29 pm

The thing is, I am not getting paid to hold these tournaments in my club, entry is free.
Also, my disability prevents me from being an arbiter

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Re: What do I do?

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:01 pm

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:29 pm
The thing is, I am not getting paid to hold these tournaments in my club, entry is free.
Also, my disability prevents me from being an arbiter
I don't see why either of those points should matter in principle.

Perhaps you can speak with your Federation from doing the Swiss-Manager part of the course only?

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Re: What do I do?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:49 pm

Why strong players are not necessarily good trainers?

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Re: What do I do?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:50 pm

What makes a tournament big?

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Re: What do I do?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Mon May 21, 2018 7:44 pm

What's a bug tourament? at all?

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Re: What do I do?

Post by Barry Sandercock » Tue May 22, 2018 7:10 pm

Soheil Hooshdaran wrote:

What`s a bug tournament ?

I don`t know. I only play in Chess tournaments. If the question is meant to be " What`s a big tournament ? " I suppose the answer is one where there is a lot of players, as big means a large amount.

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Re: What do I do?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Wed May 23, 2018 10:51 am

OK, now how to organize a big tournament?

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Re: What do I do?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed May 23, 2018 10:55 am

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 10:51 am
OK, now how to organize a big tournament?
What headcount of players do you think could be attracted to enter?

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Re: What do I do?

Post by soheil_hooshdaran » Wed May 23, 2018 11:19 am

The more the better.
I might lease another place in case of a big turnnout. I just want to see what makes a tournament big.

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Re: What do I do?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed May 23, 2018 11:29 am

soheil_hooshdaran wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 11:19 am
I just want to see what makes a tournament big.
It's how you want to define it. From a practical point of view, if you are running the tournament on your own, then a "big" tournament is when it becomes too large for one person and their computer to handle and you need to recruit a team to assist you.

A weekend tournament in the UK is likely to have between 20 and 60 players in each 5 round section with between 3 and 6 sections, each with an arbiter or controller running them. So that's somewhere between 60 and 360 people.

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