Finance Committee Meeting 2026

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Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by John Upham » Thu May 14, 2026 4:53 pm

Dear ECF Council Member
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a meeting of the English Chess Federation Council will be held at the residence of the Chair and by video conferencing facilities (ZOOM) starting at 18.30 pm. The video access will be available from 18.00 pm.

The Procedural Bye Laws prescribe that the Chair shall seek to end the ECF General Council meeting by 22.30 pm. but it may be extended to 23.30 pm if Members wish.

This meeting is convened by the Chair of the ECF Council. This agenda is issued from the English Chess Federation Office (3, Bear Hill, Alvechurch, Birmingham, Worcestershire B48 7JX) on Thursday 14th May 2026.

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Attachments
(i) The ECF Finance Council Meeting Agenda June 2026
(ii) Appointment of Proxies and Voting Arrangements

Documents referred to in the Agenda will be published on the ECF website (Go to: About US -> Documents -> Council papers).
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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by John Reyes » Fri May 15, 2026 9:29 am

this is the main motion and what is people views?

10. Proposed Membership Fees for 2026-27

Current Proposed Rates for 2026/27

£ £

Junior Bronze 7.50 9.00
Junior Gold 14.00 16.00
Junior Platinum 80.00 82.00

Bronze 21.00 22.00
Gold 37.00 38.00
Platinum 80.00 82.00


Supporter 9.99 10.00

Congress Pay to Play 16.00 16.00
Congress Pay to Play (junior) 6.50 7.00
Congress Pay to Play (junior only
events) 3.00 3.00
FIDE Admin fee (non-England) 1.50 (waived) n/a
Non-Members Game fee 21.00 22.00
Non-Members Game Fee (Junior) 7.50 9.00
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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by Derrick Walker » Fri May 15, 2026 10:30 am

Hopefully as part of this they are also scrapping the Free Junior Bronze. With a Free Junior Gold also available it makes no sense for organisers when the Free Bronze has to be upgraded to Free Junior Gold so they can play in a Congrress. Yes, it is free to upgrade but why should organisers have to keep track and ECF Office do a pointless bit of paperwork.

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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by John Upham » Fri May 15, 2026 10:40 am

Derrick Walker wrote:
Fri May 15, 2026 10:30 am
Hopefully as part of this they are also scrapping the Free Junior Bronze. With a Free Junior Gold also available it makes no sense for organisers when the Free Bronze has to be upgraded to Free Junior Gold so they can play in a Congrress. Yes, it is free to upgrade but why should organisers have to keep track and ECF Office do a pointless bit of paperwork.
Yes, the FJB has provided a continuous source of confusion for parents who are not familiar with the nuances of rating and what a congress is.

Quite agree Derrick. :D
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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by John Reyes » Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:05 pm

John Upham wrote:
Fri May 15, 2026 10:40 am
Derrick Walker wrote:
Fri May 15, 2026 10:30 am
Hopefully as part of this they are also scrapping the Free Junior Bronze. With a Free Junior Gold also available it makes no sense for organisers when the Free Bronze has to be upgraded to Free Junior Gold so they can play in a Congrress. Yes, it is free to upgrade but why should organisers have to keep track and ECF Office do a pointless bit of paperwork.
Yes, the FJB has provided a continuous source of confusion for parents who are not familiar with the nuances of rating and what a congress is.

Quite agree Derrick. :D
I respectfully disagree, as there are junior and new players who simply wish to participate in league chess. While it is your decision, it is important to consider all perspectives.
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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Jun 08, 2026 6:04 pm

John Reyes wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:05 pm
John Upham wrote:
Fri May 15, 2026 10:40 am
Derrick Walker wrote:
Fri May 15, 2026 10:30 am
Hopefully as part of this they are also scrapping the Free Junior Bronze. With a Free Junior Gold also available it makes no sense for organisers when the Free Bronze has to be upgraded to Free Junior Gold so they can play in a Congrress. Yes, it is free to upgrade but why should organisers have to keep track and ECF Office do a pointless bit of paperwork.
Yes, the FJB has provided a continuous source of confusion for parents who are not familiar with the nuances of rating and what a congress is.

Quite agree Derrick. :D
I respectfully disagree, as there are junior and new players who simply wish to participate in league chess. While it is your decision, it is important to consider all perspectives.
How many juniors only wish to participate in league chess, and no other chess?

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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by John Upham » Mon Jun 08, 2026 6:21 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2026 6:04 pm
How many juniors only wish to participate in league chess, and no other chess?
You beat me to asking the very same question Alex
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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by John Upham » Mon Jun 08, 2026 6:22 pm

One other minor query:

I am happy to recommend Junior Pt membership over and above Junior Au membership.

If only I knew what the benefits were to the player: can anyone help please?
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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Jun 08, 2026 6:46 pm

Could the title of this discussion be corrected?
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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by Mike Truran » Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:00 pm

Free Junior Bronze is an entirely pointless category (as has been pointed out above, juniors only wanting to play local league chess are as rare as hens' teeth, and anyway Free Junior Gold allows them to do only that if that's what they want). The Board wanted to abolish it. A vociferous minority at a past Council meeting argued for its retention for some bizarre reason I can no longer recall (presumably something to do with juniors drifting into paid Gold after year 1 by mistake and having to pay an extra £7); Council in its wisdom agreed.

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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by Ian Thompson » Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:39 pm

Mike Truran wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:00 pm
juniors only wanting to play local league chess are as rare as hens' teeth,
How many juniors play in leagues for their school and/or individual events run by their league/county/local area which are only open to local players, at least one of which is rated, and nothing else? How strictly is the "only open to local players" rule enforced when determining membership requirements?

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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by Alex Holowczak » Tue Jun 09, 2026 7:51 am

Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:39 pm
How many juniors play in leagues for their school
There are almost no leagues (as you would think of them) left, except for the Briant Poulter League. In any event, we are likely to adapt Schools Membership for 2026/27 to cover that off, to make it more convenient for schools chess.

Inter-school chess has evolved from school leagues with home/away matches across the winter into evening tournaments, where all the schools in the area meet up at one of the schools, and play a tournament. This tournament will inevitably be a team tournament with fewer than 8 rapid games, and thus it is automatically exempt from Game Fee under existing rules anyway.
Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:39 pm
and/or individual events run by their league/county/local area which are only open to local players, at least one of which is rated, and nothing else?
I'm not sure why "at least one of which is rated" is a relevant point, but
  • I don't believe there are many children who play league chess and league chess only. I think even fewer of these people play individual events closed to the league, and not league chess/other chess
  • You could have asked about inter-county junior chess and bronze membership. Junior 4NCL is FIDE-rated, so they need Gold membership anyway. The EPSCA Schools Event is on the jumbo-event flat rate arrangements regardless of membership takeup. The EPSCA Inter-Association (i.e. county) event is subject to Game Fee but on principle didn't require players to be members anyway. They briefly tried that this year under new management, before the team managers politely, and not so politely, pointed at the rules and past decisions, and so they didn't try to apply a membership rule at all.
Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:39 pm
How strictly is the "only open to local players" rule enforced when determining membership requirements?
In my experience - it is properly applied.

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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by Neill Cooper » Tue Jun 09, 2026 8:50 am

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2026 7:51 am
Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:39 pm
How many juniors play in leagues for their school
There are almost no leagues (as you would think of them) left, except for the Briant Poulter League. In any event, we are likely to adapt Schools Membership for 2026/27 to cover that off, to make it more convenient for schools chess.
Alex forgets to consider schools who play in evening leagues. For instance 2 of the 7 clubs in the Torbay Chess League are schools whilst Eton College plays in the Berkshire League. The 3 schools have a total 36 (junior) bronze members between them.

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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by Neill Cooper » Tue Jun 09, 2026 10:16 am

John Reyes wrote:
Fri May 15, 2026 9:29 am
this is the main motion and what is people views?

10. Proposed Membership Fees for 2026-27

Current Proposed Rates for 2026/27

£ £

Junior Bronze 7.50 9.00
Junior Gold 14.00 16.00
Junior Platinum 80.00 82.00

Bronze 21.00 22.00
Gold 37.00 38.00
Platinum 80.00 82.00


Supporter 9.99 10.00

Congress Pay to Play 16.00 16.00
Congress Pay to Play (junior) 6.50 7.00
Congress Pay to Play (junior only
events) 3.00 3.00
FIDE Admin fee (non-England) 1.50 (waived) n/a
Non-Members Game fee 21.00 22.00
Non-Members Game Fee (Junior) 7.50 9.00
I note that Junior fees are going up much faster than adult fees. Previously they were kept low to encourage new juniors but this no longer seems to be the case, beyond the one year free Junior Gold membership.

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Re: Finance Committee Meeting 2026

Post by Ian Thompson » Tue Jun 09, 2026 10:28 am

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2026 7:51 am
I'm not sure why "at least one of which is rated" is a relevant point, but
Because we're talking about ECF membership requirements. There is only a requirement if the event is rated.
Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2026 7:51 am
Ian Thompson wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:39 pm
How strictly is the "only open to local players" rule enforced when determining membership requirements?
In my experience - it is properly applied.
Define "properly". I was thinking of events that are intended only for local players, but there is no explicit ban on non-local players entering, and, in practice, only local players do enter.

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