Reading the xml, Dr Short remains less than completely satisfied by FIDE
AGM : 15 October 2011
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Re: AGM : 15 October 2011
If somone is in contact with Andrew at the office, maybe they could ask him to look at the format of the FIDE Delegates report.
Reading the xml, Dr Short remains less than completely satisfied by FIDE
Reading the xml, Dr Short remains less than completely satisfied by FIDE
Re: AGM : 15 October 2011
In answer to Jomathan above:
Although I am chairing the meeting on Saturday, I am also representing the SCCA and so I will table these questions, if you wish. It may well be that the response to some of these points will be that they lie outside the jurisdiction of the ECF (of course).
Although I am chairing the meeting on Saturday, I am also representing the SCCA and so I will table these questions, if you wish. It may well be that the response to some of these points will be that they lie outside the jurisdiction of the ECF (of course).
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I note in the DoMs report:
Do you believe it needs to be included in the Yearbook? Discuss!
Curious as to what SIgnpost is or was I rang the Battle Office. Signpost would appear the section at the rear of the Yearbook listing contact names and details.Whether Signpost continues to need to be published is highly questionable and will be reviewed.
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Is there any truth in the rumour that RDK will be opening the AGM? I would hate Malcolm Pein missing it again if he were.
To remove any doubt I can assure everyone that he will NOT be opening the Scarborough Congress next weekend!!

To remove any doubt I can assure everyone that he will NOT be opening the Scarborough Congress next weekend!!
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That's OK, it was worth the waitDavid Sedgwick wrote:Reverting to the initial subject of this thread, my Report is now available at http://www.englishchess.org.uk/?page_id=897 (as is the Report of Nigel Short as FIDE Delegate).
I've apologised to members of Council for the lateness of my Report. I'd like to make a similar apology to members of this Forum.
Just a pity that when reports are added to the website, it doesn't have a date next to the to say when (for those of us who downloaded the first few reports some time ago)
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Thanks Mike. I appreciate it.Mike Gunn wrote:In answer to Jomathan above:
Although I am chairing the meeting on Saturday, I am also representing the SCCA and so I will table these questions, if you wish. It may well be that the response to some of these points will be that they lie outside the jurisdiction of the ECF (of course).
While I agree that with some of the points it might be impossible for the ECF to give a definitive answer - I doubt that the AGM would be able to provide accounts for the Staunton Memorial Dinner for example - in the circumstances I would expect the ECF to be taking a view on the activities of their President (whether or not that person is still their President).
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Thanks John. I'd missed that comment in the Director's Report.John Upham wrote:I note in the DoMs report:
Curious as to what SIgnpost is or was I rang the Battle Office. Signpost would appear the section at the rear of the Yearbook listing contact names and details.Whether Signpost continues to need to be published is highly questionable and will be reviewed.
Do you believe it needs to be included in the Yearbook? Discuss!
In answer to your question, I consider it an essential part of the Yearbook.
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Following on from JB
In particular, a question why the President thought it was appropriate to invite Ray Keene to open the British would manifestly be a question about his exercise of his office as President, and would not seem to be a matter that would ask the President to divulge anything confidential. I hope that someone asks the question and presses for an answer, with a potential follow-up, e.g whether the President understood why his action might be seen as controversial.
In particular, a question why the President thought it was appropriate to invite Ray Keene to open the British would manifestly be a question about his exercise of his office as President, and would not seem to be a matter that would ask the President to divulge anything confidential. I hope that someone asks the question and presses for an answer, with a potential follow-up, e.g whether the President understood why his action might be seen as controversial.
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It is certainly a matter I intend to raise, however I understood that CJ wouldn't be there to answerJonathan Rogers wrote:Following on from JB
In particular, a question why the President thought it was appropriate to invite Ray Keene to open the British would manifestly be a question about his exercise of his office as President, and would not seem to be a matter that would ask the President to divulge anything confidential. I hope that someone asks the question and presses for an answer, with a potential follow-up, e.g whether the President understood why his action might be seen as controversial.
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You will be able to ask his representative, Mr Nigel Short.Mick Norris wrote:It is certainly a matter I intend to raise, however I understood that CJ wouldn't be there to answerJonathan Rogers wrote:Following on from JB
In particular, a question why the President thought it was appropriate to invite Ray Keene to open the British would manifestly be a question about his exercise of his office as President, and would not seem to be a matter that would ask the President to divulge anything confidential. I hope that someone asks the question and presses for an answer, with a potential follow-up, e.g whether the President understood why his action might be seen as controversial.
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You may not be aware that CJ is in Glasgow filming the new series of Eggheads at the BBC.Ernie Lazenby wrote:Surely we are not turning the clock back to the days when the President was not present to answer potenially difficult questions. The last President got plenty of adverse comments on this forum for doing just that and I had hoped those days were behind us.
One must say this. Recent events have not been good publicty for the ECF and at the very least our President ought to be at the AGM to answer questions relevant to those difficulties. His absence can only be seen as an unwillingness to address them as demonstrated in his Presidents report which is as bland as they come. Regretfully I have to say that my hope we had entered a new era with CJ's appointment has been badly shaken![]()
One can also conclude that perhaps his re-elction is a done deal and he therefore feels no need to attend the meeting. If that is so then we have learnt nothing as an organisation.
Nigel was appointed by CJ as his proxy, and he was present at the British so he may be able to contribute to the discussion.
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His absence seems to have been known for a couple of months. See the thread on Nigel Short Tour 2 at http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2781 and later.Ernie Lazenby wrote:Surely we are not turning the clock back to the days when the President was not present to answer potenially difficult questions. The last President got plenty of adverse comments on this forum for doing just that and I had hoped those days were behind us.
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Unfortunately he was also the main beneficiary of the Nigel Short simul tour, for which CJ repeatedly promised to provide accounts but failed to do so when reminded. It's also one of the events for which CJ has given conflicting figures for the amount of money said to have been raised for the British Championship in Sheffield.Adam Raoof wrote:Nigel was appointed by CJ as his proxy, and he was present at the British so he may be able to contribute to the discussion.
To say that Nosher is not the ideal person to be speaking on the President's behalf on this matter is an understatement to say the least.
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Accepted, and that will probably be the case. You have to feel sorry for the CEO!Ernie Lazenby wrote:IF CJ is not going to be present then I feel the CEO ought to be the one to try and answer questions not Nigel Short CJ's friend.
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No need to feel sorry for me - it goes with the territory.Adam Raoof wrote:Accepted, and that will probably be the case. You have to feel sorry for the CEO!Ernie Lazenby wrote:IF CJ is not going to be present then I feel the CEO ought to be the one to try and answer questions not Nigel Short CJ's friend.
I've always tried to be open and honest during the last 12 months, and I'll do my best to answer whatever questions are posed on Saturday.