British Chess Championships 2011

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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Steve Rooney » Wed May 25, 2011 6:18 pm

LozCooper wrote:
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Ben Purton wrote:I don't know how its stored by I can imagine it might even cost him money.
The costs on this forum are around £250 a year, the grading site costs me around the same and the live server used for games relay has a cost of around £650 a year

Plus my time :!:

As always I am happy to cover those costs
I think the majority of players are very appreciate of your efforts :D
Actually I think you should recover those direct costs. Around 50 Forum members chipping in £25 contribution would do it. A voluntary contribution by PayPal might be worth it. You never know it might even generate additional cash to enhance the live games coverage.

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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed May 25, 2011 6:18 pm

Alan Burke wrote:I never said anything about you criticising the planning; I merely commented on your playground approach in saying because the ECF have not done things the way YOU think they should, you were thinking of withdrawing your services.
Unless I am missing something I have not suggested a way I think things should be done?
Alan Burke wrote:I also note that you still have not answered my question on how you came to the conclusion I have no knowledge of the situation !
You are not on the internal mailing list on this matter?
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Carl Hibbard

Alan Burke

Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Alan Burke » Wed May 25, 2011 6:32 pm

Carl .. you criticised the ECF in saying you thought there had been a lack of planning - and so YOU obviously thought things should have been planned in a different manner !

There may well be an internal mailing list, but just as YOU have made it into a public matter by your posts in this forum; so others on that list could also have leaked certain information in other ways !

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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Mike Truran » Wed May 25, 2011 6:42 pm

......and maybe not.....

Carl, I suggest you don't bother replying any more. Expecting to have any sort of sensible discussion where Mr Burke is involved would represent the triumph of hope over experience.

andrew martin

Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by andrew martin » Wed May 25, 2011 7:23 pm

OK Mr Burke; what is your precise knowledge of the position?

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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Mike Truran » Wed May 25, 2011 7:27 pm

Unless I wished to, I would never give information of my private business in such a public forum as this
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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Mick Norris » Wed May 25, 2011 7:42 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:The costs on this forum are around £250 a year, the grading site costs me around the same and the live server used for games relay has a cost of around £650 a year

Plus my time :!:

As always I am happy to cover those costs
Carl

Very grateful for this, particularly the time you put in

Thanks again
Mick
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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed May 25, 2011 10:14 pm

I have removed a couple of posts as they were not appropriate
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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Alan Burke » Thu May 26, 2011 1:51 am

Andrew Martin ... My knowledge of the position is actually irrelevant to the point in question.

The matter at hand is that Carl Hibbard said to me "Since you have zero knowledge of the issues ... " (as well as issuing a personal insult).

I was just asking Carl Hibbard to prove how he can be 100% confident that he is correct with that fact ... or was he just ASSUMING I might not know anything ? If so, he should not just post a comment without thoroughly checking its credibility.

Carl Hibbard has already had to remove another comment of his about me from another thread after he admitted it was not a proper statement to publish.

As Adam Raoof also pointed out ... would he (and everyone else who Carl Hibbard thinks has no knowledge of the situation) also be considered as a numpty ?

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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Carl Hibbard » Thu May 26, 2011 6:57 am

Alan Burke wrote:The matter at hand is that Carl Hibbard said to me "Since you have zero knowledge of the issues ... " (as well as issuing a personal insult).
After your Miss and Ball comment earlier in the thread and your acquisition of blackmail how can you possibly expect me not to bite?
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Sean Hewitt

Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Sean Hewitt » Thu May 26, 2011 7:43 am

Alan Burke wrote:Andrew Martin ... My knowledge of the position is actually irrelevant to the point in question.
Google translate tells me that this means "Andrew Martin...I do have zero knowledge of the issues" :lol:

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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Alex Holowczak » Thu May 26, 2011 8:32 am

Alan Burke wrote:I was just asking Carl Hibbard to prove how he can be 100% confident that he is correct with that fact ... or was he just ASSUMING I might not know anything ? If so, he should not just post a comment without thoroughly checking its credibility.
Carl's assumption that you had zero knowledge of the situation was based on the fact that you weren't on the mailing list discussing these things. If he was assuming you might not know anything, this is what it was based upon.

Should you have magically acquired this knowledge from other sources - which, let's remember, absolutely no one else other than the mailing list were privy to (even the Board was omitted from this based on subsequent posts) - then you're right, he was wrong to make that assumption.

So either you actually don't know what's going on, or Carl made a wrong assumption - albeit one that had very sound logic behind it. I don't see how either of these conclusions warrant the subsequent fracas.

Alan Burke

Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Alan Burke » Thu May 26, 2011 8:45 am

Carl ... you will notice that my "blackmail" comment was AFTER your post concerning "zero knowledge" ! If not blackmail, what exactly would you call it when someone says "if things don't happen as I think they should, I will issue some form of retrebution" ?

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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Phil Makepeace » Thu May 26, 2011 10:59 am

Can we please have a romper room so that decent threads don't get polluted like this?

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Re: British Chess Championships 2011

Post by Paul Sanders » Thu May 26, 2011 11:13 am

I recommend the 'foe list' tool.

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