British Championship Congress 2019

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Nick Burrows
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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Nick Burrows » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:35 pm

If Andrew Smith doesn't do a Bobby Fischer, I will eat my hat

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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:00 am

"If Andrew Smith doesn't do a Bobby Fischer, I will eat my hat"

In a nice sense I hope! I'm not that optimistic of 100 %, but he is a dangerous opponent, full of good ideas.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:20 am

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:10 pm
It just might be premature to talk about it, but if he does it, I think he would be British Champion - I think if you are eligible to play in it, you are eligible to win it. Open to correction, bien sur.
Surely Zapolskis (from Lithuania) could not be crowned British Champion were he to win?
On what grounds was he allowed to enter?

The Irish players have always been a special case, since there is one FIDE federation for North and South and many Irish have dual citizenship.
So I think Andrew can become champion in theory.
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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:25 am

Reg Clucas wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:52 pm
Lots of draws in the opening round in both Senior sections.
Yes, I'd seen that; in the over 65, draws on the top 4 boards including our own RdC drawing with black on board 2 despite conceding nearly 300 rating points

In the over 50, draws on boards 1 - 3 and 5-7 and only 7 wins in total from 21 games

Not sure if this makes an outright winner more or less likely
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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:27 am

Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:20 am
Surely Zapolskis (from Lithuania) could not be crowned British Champion were he to win?
On what grounds was he allowed to enter?
Residency, presumably.

EDIT: There is precedent for this, incidentally. Joe Gallagher was registered with Switzerland when he won the title in 2001.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:36 am

The nearest precedent is surely Jacob Aagaard in 2007: eligible through residence only, and I think possibly even still playing under the DEN flag at the time (I might be wrong) - but eligible to play and accordingly champion when he won.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Stewart Reuben » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:03 pm

Tim Harding >Surely Zapolskis (from Lithuania) could not be crowned British Champion were he to win?
On what grounds was he allowed to enter?<

The Southern Irish have been allowed to play in the Bfitih Championships since 1987. I introuced that rule.

People resident in the British Isles for a year or more are eligible to play in the Championships, provided they meet the other requirements. David Welch introduced it. Peraonally I dissagreed, but was no longer in charge. When theyleave, they lose that right.

I think birth in the British Isles and initially citizenship, permits a player to compete for life. But, I am confused why Helen Milligan was refused entry. She is, of course, residcent in New Zeland and now registered for that country. Originally she was SCO. Ingrid Lauterbach transferred to ENG while resident here. She eturned to live and work in Germany. She is still registered ENG and has represented us in the World Senior Team Championship. But she is not allowed in the British. I find that odd.

Michael Adams offered the opinion that, only players registered for the 6 home federations should be permitted to play in the British.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:17 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:36 am
The nearest precedent is surely Jacob Aagaard in 2007: eligible through residence only, and I think possibly even still playing under the DEN flag at the time (I might be wrong) - but eligible to play and accordingly champion when he won.
No, he was SCO at that time. He moved to DEN in 2009 and shuttled back to SCO last year. I'm not offering a view on whether it matters.

One way or another, I do feel that if you can't win the title, then you shouldn't be allowed to play.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by John Upham » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:47 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:00 am
"If Andrew Smith doesn't do a Bobby Fischer, I will eat my hat"

In a nice sense I hope! I'm not that optimistic of 100 %, but he is a dangerous opponent, full of good ideas.
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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:06 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:03 pm

The Southern Irish
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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Nick Burrows » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:19 pm

It's just below the north if my geography is correct

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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Tim Spanton » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:29 pm

It's also just above it, as a map of the island shows
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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:05 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:19 pm
It's just below the north if my geography is correct
Something is, but that's not what it's called
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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Andy Stoker » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:30 pm

Another win by default for Palliser.

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Re: British Championship Congress 2019

Post by Nick Burrows » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:59 pm

Tim Spanton wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:29 pm
It's also just above it, as a map of the island shows
https://beauchess.blogspot.com/
That's the north south of Ireland

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