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Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:35 pm
by Nick Burrows
If Andrew Smith doesn't do a Bobby Fischer, I will eat my hat
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:00 am
by Kevin Thurlow
"If Andrew Smith doesn't do a Bobby Fischer, I will eat my hat"
In a nice sense I hope! I'm not that optimistic of 100 %, but he is a dangerous opponent, full of good ideas.
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:20 am
by Tim Harding
Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:10 pm
It just might be premature to talk about it, but if he does it, I think he would be British Champion - I think if you are eligible to play in it, you are eligible to win it. Open to correction, bien sur.
Surely Zapolskis (from Lithuania) could not be crowned British Champion were he to win?
On what grounds was he allowed to enter?
The Irish players have always been a special case, since there is one FIDE federation for North and South and many Irish have dual citizenship.
So I think Andrew can become champion in theory.
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:25 am
by Mick Norris
Reg Clucas wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:52 pm
Lots of draws in the opening round in both Senior sections.
Yes, I'd seen that; in the over 65, draws on the top 4 boards including our own RdC drawing with black on board 2 despite conceding nearly 300 rating points
In the over 50, draws on boards 1 - 3 and 5-7 and only 7 wins in total from 21 games
Not sure if this makes an outright winner more or less likely
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:27 am
by IM Jack Rudd
Tim Harding wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:20 am
Surely Zapolskis (from Lithuania) could not be crowned British Champion were he to win?
On what grounds was he allowed to enter?
Residency, presumably.
EDIT: There is precedent for this, incidentally. Joe Gallagher was registered with Switzerland when he won the title in 2001.
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:36 am
by Jonathan Rogers
The nearest precedent is surely Jacob Aagaard in 2007: eligible through residence only, and I think possibly even still playing under the DEN flag at the time (I might be wrong) - but eligible to play and accordingly champion when he won.
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:03 pm
by Stewart Reuben
Tim Harding >Surely Zapolskis (from Lithuania) could not be crowned British Champion were he to win?
On what grounds was he allowed to enter?<
The Southern Irish have been allowed to play in the Bfitih Championships since 1987. I introuced that rule.
People resident in the British Isles for a year or more are eligible to play in the Championships, provided they meet the other requirements. David Welch introduced it. Peraonally I dissagreed, but was no longer in charge. When theyleave, they lose that right.
I think birth in the British Isles and initially citizenship, permits a player to compete for life. But, I am confused why Helen Milligan was refused entry. She is, of course, residcent in New Zeland and now registered for that country. Originally she was SCO. Ingrid Lauterbach transferred to ENG while resident here. She eturned to live and work in Germany. She is still registered ENG and has represented us in the World Senior Team Championship. But she is not allowed in the British. I find that odd.
Michael Adams offered the opinion that, only players registered for the 6 home federations should be permitted to play in the British.
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:17 pm
by NickFaulks
Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:36 am
The nearest precedent is surely Jacob Aagaard in 2007: eligible through residence only, and I think possibly even still playing under the DEN flag at the time (I might be wrong) - but eligible to play and accordingly champion when he won.
No, he was SCO at that time. He moved to DEN in 2009 and shuttled back to SCO last year. I'm not offering a view on whether it matters.
One way or another, I do feel that if you can't win the title, then you shouldn't be allowed to play.
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:47 pm
by John Upham
Kevin Thurlow wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:00 am
"If Andrew Smith doesn't do a Bobby Fischer, I will eat my hat"
In a nice sense I hope! I'm not that optimistic of 100 %, but he is a dangerous opponent, full of good ideas.
For your amusement I attach
The position after 22...Qxh1 is optically spectacular !
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:06 pm
by JustinHorton
I am aware of no state called Southern Ireland
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:19 pm
by Nick Burrows
It's just below the north if my geography is correct
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:29 pm
by Tim Spanton
It's also just above it, as a map of the island shows
https://beauchess.blogspot.com/
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:05 pm
by JustinHorton
Nick Burrows wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:19 pm
It's just below the north if my geography is correct
Something is, but that's not what it's called
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:30 pm
by Andy Stoker
Another win by default for Palliser.
"Death ray Palliser"
Re: British Championship Congress 2019
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:59 pm
by Nick Burrows
That's the north south of Ireland