Angus French wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:42 amThe membership list for 24 September has 12 ECF SUPPORTERs.
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Interesting; I've automatically assigned the bye to number 10 in the example, but not thought about whyRoger de Coverly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:28 pmYes.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 amSo, by highest number, you mean that in a 9 team league, you assign the bye as team number 10?
As Berks League controller, part of the job is to build a list of fixtures and date ranges for attendees at a fixture meeting to put dates to paper. This is done using a spreadsheet powered by the Berger tables.
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The hypothetical development officer wouldn't get any credit for 100 people playing 2 games each because they wouldn't have any financial incentive to voluntarily become members. He'd have to convince them there was some other reason to join the ECF. If he was successful then he'd deserve credit for doing that.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:38 pmThe ECF's financing model means it likely gets more revenue from 40 people playing 5 graded games each, than from 100 people playing 2 games.Chris Goodall (quoting hypothetical development officer) wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:08 pmBecause I am literally paid per ECF member,
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This. Marginal cost has been an alien concept to the ECF ever since NMS days (and I was 20 when NMS happened, so I don't even remember the poll tax).Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:38 pmThe ECF's financing model means it likely gets more revenue from 40 people playing 5 graded games each, than from 100 people playing 2 games.Chris Goodall (quoting hypothetical development officer) wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:08 pmBecause I am literally paid per ECF member,
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Actually, I find that in general, the quality of chess organisers in England is not that great. I say this as someone who, in my previous role and even now to some extent, has spent a considerable amount of time tidying up after them.Chris Goodall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:01 amI can think of no policy more destructive to local organisations than the ECF announcing that, henceforth, "how to organise chess" is proprietary knowledge that will be revealed to a select group, in person, for a fee. Assuming that there is some great secret to running a local chess league (and having run one for five years, there's really nothing that I couldn't fit onto a side of A4) then surely to God, we owe it to local organisers to make it publicly available for the sum of £0.00 so it's not a secret any more? If the finer workings of the Berger tables absolutely must be explained by a human talking through a PowerPoint presentation, then let them do it once, video the damn thing, and put it on YouTube.
Despite this, I do have the greatest sympathy for these organisers. They're normally volunteers who are helping out to do something that no one else can be bothered to do, and do it out of a sense of duty to their club/league/tournament. You can't expect them to be as well-versed in various regulations as someone like Adam Raoof, for example, who organises multiple tournaments per month and has a professional IT setup around his events to handle everything relatively easily.
I receive emails asking me about various things to do with tournament organisation reasonably often. While some organisers are "set in their ways", others want to improve and others are just starting out in the field and want good advice to do the best job that they can. I think training courses for such people would be reasonably well-received. I'm not sure I could reproduce the answers I've given over the years into a short Power Point. There's not just leagues, remember - there are congresses too, and even club internal events.
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Presumably it's because you've got 9 teams, so you just assigned them PIN 1-9. If you do the natural thing then it's not much of a trick at all.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:47 pmInteresting; I've automatically assigned the bye to number 10 in the example, but not thought about whyRoger de Coverly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:28 pmYes.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 amSo, by highest number, you mean that in a 9 team league, you assign the bye as team number 10?
As Berks League controller, part of the job is to build a list of fixtures and date ranges for attendees at a fixture meeting to put dates to paper. This is done using a spreadsheet powered by the Berger tables.
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Message to Bronze members about the AGM here.
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Presumably so The ECF eNewsletter October 2019 could break the news.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:11 am
The AGM papers, in particular the Director's report suggest that the ECF has appointed a development officer. The mystery remains as to why the appointment remains secret.
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My understanding is that when the ECF papers announced that an appointment had been made the interviews hadn't even taken place.LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:41 pmPresumably so The ECF eNewsletter October 2019 could break the news.
Some might feel that having made a premature announcement the ECF was forced into appointing one of the candidates. Those less cynical may say that the candidates were so exceptional that an appointment was guaranteed.
Which camp are you in?
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Neither. But I feel that the successful applicant, Carl Portman, is a good choice.Alex McFarlane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:25 pmSome might feel that having made a premature announcement the ECF was forced into appointing one of the candidates. Those less cynical may say that the candidates were so exceptional that an appointment was guaranteed.
Which camp are you in?
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Correct. A bit of anticipation when the AGM announcement went out.Alex McFarlane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:25 pm
My understanding is that when the ECF papers announced that an appointment had been made the interviews hadn't even taken place.
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Alex McFarlane wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:25 pmMy understanding is that when the ECF papers announced that an appointment had been made the interviews hadn't even taken place.
Julie, thank you for not attempting a cover-up, but how precisely do the Board justify misleading Council members in this way?Julie Denning wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:41 pmCorrect. A bit of anticipation when the AGM announcement went out.
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The paper was written to reflect the fact that many people would be reading the paper for the first time on or only shortly before the day of the Council meeting and so to reflect the position as it was expected to be (and indeed will be) as at the day of the Council meeting.
The intention was to help rather than mislead Council members. But each to their own view, I suppose.
The intention was to help rather than mislead Council members. But each to their own view, I suppose.
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Really? I would have thought that those Council members who haven't taken the trouble to read the paper in advance probably won't read it at all.Mike Truran wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:29 pmThe paper was written to reflect the fact that many people would be reading the paper for the first time on the day of the Council meeting ...
Indeed so. My view is that Council members are entitled to expect that the Board will seek to ensure that Council papers are accurate at the time of issue. I am amazed that you think otherwise.
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I think that provided it is understood which time-frame the information relates to - whether date of meeting or date of papers being issued - it doesn't matter. Nor is this sort of thing uncommon in the public sector, voluntary organisations or I suspect private bodies where the data is not price sensitive.
But if people want to grumble and have nothing better to do...
But if people want to grumble and have nothing better to do...