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Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:42 pm
by Ian Thompson
Joseph Conlon wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:12 pm
The ECF have a post up saying that there will not be a large-scale OTB British in Torquay in summer 2021 but that there will be an OTB British championships, spread out in various ways, in October 2021.

https://www.englishchess.org.uk/british ... hips-2021/

To me they have got this perfectly right - with the best will in the world towards organising OTB chess at current times (and I am as keen on this as anyone) - a full-scale summer British is logistically unreasonable, in terms of risks and finances. On the other hand not running any form of OTB British Championships would seem defeatist
Agreed, and I wonder if the 4NCL could do something similar with multiple smaller venues, not necessarily all on the same weekend? Again, not ideal, but better than nothing.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:13 pm
by Roger Lancaster
JustinHorton wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:40 pm
2005, about sixty miles away
Yes although I seem to remember that was on an entirely separate island.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:12 am
by Matthew Turner
Joseph Conlon wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:12 pm
The ECF have a post up saying that there will not be a large-scale OTB British in Torquay in summer 2021 but that there will be an OTB British championships, spread out in various ways, in October 2021.

https://www.englishchess.org.uk/british ... hips-2021/

To me they have got this perfectly right - with the best will in the world towards organising OTB chess at current times (and I am as keen on this as anyone) - a full-scale summer British is logistically unreasonable, in terms of risks and finances. On the other hand not running any form of OTB British Championships would seem defeatist - the British used to be an invited all-play-all, and it would not be unreasonable to run it on the same format.

Likewise with junior events, which - if necessary - could also operate on restricted entry.

None of this is ideal but half a loaf is better than no bread.
Hull has proved it can organise top quality events in big, nice, spacious venues in October, so it should be perfectly possible to crown British Champions in 2021, if so desired. The risk of a slimmed down invitational event is, for adults it will be expensive and for juniors it will be controversial. However, I certainly think this is worth the ECF considering. For the adults, a lot may depend on the views of Caplin and for the juniors, I wonder if the ECF will be keeping an eye on how things go with the U.K. Chess Challenge.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:54 am
by Simon Rogers
The 2005 British Chess Championships was held on the Isle of Man.
Since 1904, the British Chess Championships have not been held in Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Wight.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:57 am
by Kevin Thurlow
"Since 1904, the British Chess Championships have not been held in Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Wight."

Or Gibraltar, or Falklands etc.

A friend in Guernsey was trying to set up a leisure centre/hotel on Alderney years ago in an old fort, which might just have been big enough. But the planners stopped him...

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:01 am
by Simon Rogers
The owner of Wetherspoons, Tim Martin, lives in the Isles of Scilly, whether his mansion is big enough to hold it, that I don't know. Also I don't think there is currently any restrictions down there.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:33 am
by Carl Hibbard
Why are there two threads with the same name I am confused?

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:01 pm
by Roger Lancaster
Simon Rogers wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:54 am
The 2005 British Chess Championships was held on the Isle of Man.
Since 1904, the British Chess Championships have not been held in Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Wight.
In response to posters who felt that the British Chess Championships took place too infrequently in their countries or regions, I wished merely to point out that - in one of the four countries of the United Kingdom, ie. Northern Ireland - they had never taken place.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:12 pm
by LawrenceCooper
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:33 am
Why are there two threads with the same name I am confused?
Because no one has created a third yet :roll:

Re: Briish Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:16 pm
by John McKenna
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:33 am
Why are there two threads with the same name I am confused?
The 2nd post in this thread shows the subject title had no 't' in British (see title at top of this post).
David Robertson wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:02 pm
Roger de Coverly wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:06 pm
...the one used when the Congress was last in Blackpool back in 1988
And it's still a...
So the two threads were different.

Somewhere along the line the 't' was put into "Briish" making the two thread titles the same.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:23 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:33 am
Why are there two threads with the same name I am confused?
They were started at different times, the first pre-lockdown. They may as well be merged if that's straightforward.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:39 pm
by David Sedgwick
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:33 am
Why are there two threads with the same name I am confused?
Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:23 pm
They were started at different times, the first pre-lockdown. They may as well be merged if that's straightforward.
Carl. perhaps you could contact a moderator and ask him to merge them :lol:.

Continued thanks for everything you do.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:50 pm
by John McKenna
David Sedgwick wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:39 pm
Carl Hibbard wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:33 am
Why are there two threads with the same name I am confused?
Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:23 pm
They were started at different times, the first pre-lockdown. They may as well be merged if that's straightforward.
Carl. perhaps you could contact a moderated and ask him to merge them :lol:.

Continued thanks for everything you do.
Couldn't agree more with the last sentence.

Jack Rudd usually acts as moderator but seems not to be about.

PS Spelling is going to pot on the forum these days probably due to lockdown fatigue.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:14 pm
by IM Jack Rudd
Topics merged.

Re: British Championship Congress 2021

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:51 pm
by David Sedgwick
John McKenna wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:50 pm
PS Spelling is going to pot on the forum these days probably due to lockdown fatigue.
Thank you for the discreet hint. I have edited my post.