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Whether that's correct or not seems to depend on the context of whether the International Director is seeking re-election or funds to finance international teams.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm- I thought much of the Olympiad expense was paid by sponsors for that purpose entirely. If that is correct, the money will simply not come into chess: painful for the players concerned but not for the ECF.
Well, those of us with access to the organisers' area do, but I'm not sure we should publish it here. No doubt the ECF will do so when they feel it is appropriate.Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:02 pmAnybody have any updates on the numbers who are renewing their memberships?
From the ECF's own email:Reg Clucas wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:07 pmWell, those of us with access to the organisers' area do, but I'm not sure we should publish it here. No doubt the ECF will do so when they feel it is appropriate.Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:02 pmAnybody have any updates on the numbers who are renewing their memberships?
Every organisation "needs a minimum level of funding to remain viable." The question is, what is the ECF's minimum: £1? £100,000? Something in-between?Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:43 amFrom the ECF's own email:Reg Clucas wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:07 pmWell, those of us with access to the organisers' area do, but I'm not sure we should publish it here. No doubt the ECF will do so when they feel it is appropriate.Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:02 pmAnybody have any updates on the numbers who are renewing their memberships?
*The ECF needs a minimum level of funding to remain viable so that we can provide support to chess activities when life begins to return to normal."
Without enough members, the minimum level of funding will not be achieved for the ECF to remain financially viable.
I think its normal budget is closer to £160,000.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:09 amEvery organisation "needs a minimum level of funding to remain viable." The question is, what is the ECF's minimum: £1? £100,000? Something in-between?Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:43 amFrom the ECF's own email:Reg Clucas wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:07 pm
Well, those of us with access to the organisers' area do, but I'm not sure we should publish it here. No doubt the ECF will do so when they feel it is appropriate.
*The ECF needs a minimum level of funding to remain viable so that we can provide support to chess activities when life begins to return to normal."
Without enough members, the minimum level of funding will not be achieved for the ECF to remain financially viable.
Well, I've paid £39 of that for 2020-21Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:26 amI think its normal budget is closer to £160,000.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:09 amEvery organisation "needs a minimum level of funding to remain viable." The question is, what is the ECF's minimum: £1? £100,000? Something in-between?Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:43 am
From the ECF's own email:
*The ECF needs a minimum level of funding to remain viable so that we can provide support to chess activities when life begins to return to normal."
Without enough members, the minimum level of funding will not be achieved for the ECF to remain financially viable.
Current Gold Member as wellTim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:28 amWell, I've paid £39 of that for 2020-21Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:26 amI think its normal budget is closer to £160,000.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:09 am
Every organisation "needs a minimum level of funding to remain viable." The question is, what is the ECF's minimum: £1? £100,000? Something in-between?
There is no need to be sarcastic ...Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:33 amCurrent Gold Member as wellTim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:28 amWell, I've paid £39 of that for 2020-21Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:26 am
I think its normal budget is closer to £160,000.
.....just being optimistic that the ECF would share some up to date information with its members.
I see the point being made, however I think using the word "massive" is somewhat overegging the pudding.Joey Stewart wrote:
I cant imagine the uptake is going to be huge, outside of those that are feeling altruistic and want to help support the ECF it feels like a massive waste of money paying full price for a membership that is going to last half a season at the very best.
Sarcasm not intended.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:39 amThere is no need to be sarcastic ...Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:33 amCurrent Gold Member as well
.....just being optimistic that the ECF would share some up to date information with its members.
No OTB chess would certainly seem to remove much of the need for an ECF, so perhaps we will see initiatives from the ECF to get OTB chess moving againPaul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:48 amSarcasm not intended.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:39 amThere is no need to be sarcastic ...Paul Robert Jackson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:33 am
Current Gold Member as well
.....just being optimistic that the ECF would share some up to date information with its members.
I just have this feeling that no chess OTB at club level, has the potential to result in there eventually being no ECF.
The impression so far is that it has focused on supposed risks without giving thought as to which restrictions are mostly cosmetic and how to get round them.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:52 amso perhaps we will see initiatives from the ECF to get OTB chess moving again
It surely wouldn't be a good look for a national body (and one that less than a decade ago received funding from public funds) to be encouraging people to get around the law. All it would take is for a local organiser to either misunderstand what the ECF was saying or wilfully misinterpret it and then when challenged say, `The ECF told me I could do this,` and suddenly the ECF has to defend itself.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:18 pmThe impression so far is that it has focused on supposed risks without giving thought as to which restrictions are mostly cosmetic and how to get round them.Tim Spanton wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:52 amso perhaps we will see initiatives from the ECF to get OTB chess moving again