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How much notice, if any, will you be taking of this ECF guidance?Adam Raoof wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:03 amThanks David, I have no doubt we will be able to run tournaments normally for at least July and August, so I have booked my venue for four dates accordingly!
I second this as the way to read the document. It has lots of things to consider but few things that are required. As I have said elsewhere, people range in their levels of Covid caution, and organisers can choose to pitch events at different levels. Events for over 65s are very different to events for under 8s. In my junior events currently, there are lots of these points that I have "considered" but have not implemented (sometimes for very mundane reasons - I originally planned larger tables, and then discovered younger juniors couldn't reach the pieces).Colin Purdon wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:30 amI voted "I would be willing" but I was tempted to go for "Other".
The guidance has many recommendations for the organiser to "Consider", and I may well make my mind up depending on how many of the guidelines are actually implemented for the event in question.
You mean, like the police.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 4:07 pmPeople conflating *guidance* with things that are *mandatory* has been a problem throughout this pandemic.
I will be honest and say I have no idea who they consulted before producing this document. There is some good advice, and I have produced my own "regulations" based on common sense and where I expect us to all be in July and August (link below). However somewhere further down the page I think it strayed into difficult territory. Would I be an arbiter or a player under some or all of these guidelines? Yes, probably, but it depends on which guidelines. I do understand that some players will simply not wear a mask, and some won't have a vaccination. I can exert some control over the former and I don't feel it's my business to ask about the latter. It's the people who won't do either that I don't really want to meet...David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:11 amHow much notice, if any, will you be taking of this ECF guidance?Adam Raoof wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:03 amThanks David, I have no doubt we will be able to run tournaments normally for at least July and August, so I have booked my venue for four dates accordingly!
I agree with this. In organising any event, whether chess-related or not, the organisers are expected to undertake a sensible risk assessment which these days includes Covid-related risks as well as long-established checks such as establishing whether there is a separate fire exit. That risk assessment should eliminate any practices that are unlawful. Where there are HMG guidelines only, I'd suggest any risk assessment is well-advised to comply with these unless it can demonstrate clear reasons why some of those guidelines can be safely disregarded - for example, it's juniors-only or it's a purely local event in a part of the country which is showing no, or a negligible number of, Covid infections.Joseph Conlon wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 1:14 pmI second this as the way to read the document. It has lots of things to consider but few things that are required. As I have said elsewhere, people range in their levels of Covid caution, and organisers can choose to pitch events at different levels. Events for over 65s are very different to events for under 8s. In my junior events currently, there are lots of these points that I have "considered" but have not implemented (sometimes for very mundane reasons - I originally planned larger tables, and then discovered younger juniors couldn't reach the pieces).Colin Purdon wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:30 amI voted "I would be willing" but I was tempted to go for "Other".
The guidance has many recommendations for the organiser to "Consider", and I may well make my mind up depending on how many of the guidelines are actually implemented for the event in question.
They have certainly done this, yes. Along with many others.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 4:51 pmYou mean, like the police.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 4:07 pmPeople conflating *guidance* with things that are *mandatory* has been a problem throughout this pandemic.