Nominations 2021

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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Nick Grey » Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:13 pm

Wednesday 22nd September seems late NO POSt BY EMAil

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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:59 pm

I have been told that the information is in the public domain

Contested elections for Director of Women's Chess and Chair of Governance Committee

Hopefully Robert Stern will be re-elected
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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:31 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:59 pm
I have been told that the information is in the public domain

Contested elections for Director of Women's Chess and Chair of Governance Committee
As well as CEO presumably, but not Junior Director ?

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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by David Sedgwick » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:45 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:59 pm
I have been told that the information is in the public domain
Where?

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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:18 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:31 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:59 pm
I have been told that the information is in the public domain

Contested elections for Director of Women's Chess and Chair of Governance Committee
As well as CEO presumably, but not Junior Director ?
Yes, that's what I was told last night
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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:19 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:45 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:59 pm
I have been told that the information is in the public domain
Where?
Good question, that's why I have refrained from naming the Candidates, I wanted to check if it was common knowledge
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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:39 am

Whatever information various people have, think they have or don't have, this cannot go on. The sooner there is a level playing field, the better.
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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:51 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:19 am
David Sedgwick wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:45 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:59 pm
I have been told that the information is in the public domain
Where?
Good question, that's why I have refrained from naming the Candidates, I wanted to check if it was common knowledge
Tease.
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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:25 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:45 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:59 pm
I have been told that the information is in the public domain
Where?
I would suggest that if the information really was truly in the public domain Mick would need to be told and David wouldn't have to ask where.

I would also suggest that whatever the reason the ECF have for choosing not to publish this information once it is available, it is on balance not a good idea to refrain from publishing.

I would finally suggest that the last few posts are a good reason why significant information should* be published as soon as possible.




update:
Joseph Conlon wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:22 pm
The nominations are on the ECF website.
This is a good thing.




*post edited to fix a typo here.
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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Joseph Conlon » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:22 pm

The nominations are on the ECF website.

I am not going to comment on anything on substance, but did note that one of the people nominating the unopposed candidate for Director of Junior Chess (AH) is the Director of Junior Chess. A typo?

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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:24 pm

Joseph Conlon wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:22 pm
I am not going to comment on anything on substance, but did note that one of the people nominating the unopposed candidate for Director of Junior Chess (AH) is the Director of Junior Chess. A typo?
I believe that existing Directors are allowed to nominate themselves.

That would also explain how the retiring Director of Women's Chess nominated himself to stand as Chairman of Governance

Other than having been a Labour councillor, I'm not sure of his qualifications for Chair of Governance. If tact and diplomacy are required qualities, are they present?
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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Michael Farthing » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:30 pm

The nominations for elections at the Annual General Meeting to be held on Saturday 16 October have now been published on the ECF website.

The reason for the delay from last Thursday is that I judged it to be in the best long term interest of the ECF as there were active discussions taking place at reconciliation between two candidates with different outlooks on how the organisation should move forward. During the period since Thursday I have been in regular contact with both the candidates and other senior figures in the Board and the Chairman of Governance. All agreed with me that a delay was appropriate, though we were all anxious to publish as soon as it was clear whether there would be any withdrawals of candidacy.

It became apparent yesterday that progress was not being made and it was agreed to publish this morning.

I still believe that the right course of action was taken and that the majority of ECF members would agree that a short delay was not too high a price to pay if there were a prospect of a more united Board in the future. Certainly, that was higher on my agenda than satisfying the impatient curiosity of those calling for immediate publication, particularly as some of the more vociferous have stated that they are not in membership of the ECF anyway.

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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:58 pm

Chris Fegan in Governance who could have possibly guessed that one :roll:
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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:09 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:58 pm
Chris Fegan in Governance who could have possibly guessed that one
Could one detect a payback for a perceived pro Truran bias in the handling of the recent complaint?

There would seem evidence of a Pein camp v Truran camp battle in the Director of Women's Chess post.

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Re: Nominations 2021

Post by David Sedgwick » Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:42 pm

Michael Farthing wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:30 pm
The nominations for elections at the Annual General Meeting to be held on Saturday 16 October have now been published on the ECF website.

The reason for the delay from last Thursday is that I judged it to be in the best long term interest of the ECF as there were active discussions taking place at reconciliation between two candidates with different outlooks on how the organisation should move forward. During the period since Thursday I have been in regular contact with both the candidates and other senior figures in the Board and the Chairman of Governance. All agreed with me that a delay was appropriate, though we were all anxious to publish as soon as it was clear whether there would be any withdrawals of candidacy.

It became apparent yesterday that progress was not being made and it was agreed to publish this morning.

I still believe that the right course of action was taken and that the majority of ECF members would agree that a short delay was not too high a price to pay if there were a prospect of a more united Board in the future. Certainly, that was higher on my agenda than satisfying the impatient curiosity of those calling for immediate publication, particularly as some of the more vociferous have stated that they are not in membership of the ECF anyway.
I was one of those calling for immediate publication.

I have served the ECF in various ways for over 35 years and I have been an ECF Direct Member since the scheme was introduced in 1990.

I do not in any way doubt your integrity and good faith, but I still believe that you took the wrong course of action.

I hope that Council will have the opportunity before the next Annual General Meeting to decide whether it wishes to make prompt publication a requirement.

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