Right Move to close

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Re: Right Move to close

Post by andrew martin » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:35 am

By the way Carl, what did you think the cost of publication was?

I would be interested to compare the figure you had in mind with some of the incredible and almost reprehensible speculation about the Certificate of Merit

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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:42 am

andrew martin wrote:By the way Carl, what did you think the cost of publication was?

I would be interested to compare the figure you had in mind with some of the incredible and almost reprehensible speculation about the Certificate of Merit
5K was the figure I was told

The true cost of CoM is still not known is it?
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Re: Right Move to close

Post by andrew martin » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:47 am

Ok, why is that shocking?

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Re: Right Move to close

Post by John Upham » Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:48 am

Carl Hibbard wrote: The true cost of CoM is still not known is it?
No, and even costs of The Right Move cannot be aggregated into those for CoM so I'm unclear as to the point of your comment.

You could ask this question within every other thread on this forum (no matter how relevant) I suppose.
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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:07 am

John Upham wrote:No, and even costs of The Right Move cannot be aggregated into those for CoM so I'm unclear as to the point of your comment.
I was answering the comment from Andrew regarding the "incredible and almost reprehensible speculation" regarding the actual cost of CoM, which as I said has not been reported yet?
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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:08 am

andrew martin wrote:Ok, why is that shocking?
Seems a lot to me for an on-line PDF distribution?
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Re: Right Move to close

Post by John Upham » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:14 am

Carl Hibbard wrote: Seems a lot to me for an on-line PDF distribution?
Assuming we agree the current cost is £420 per issue which goes to pay the content provider and the producer what would you say was a reasonable cost and who would you recommend to do the work at those rates?

Two minor requirements are that each issue is produced in a timely fashion and contains original content.
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Re: Right Move to close

Post by andrew martin » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:14 am

Well, we could debate that further as I make my living from chess and have 4 kids to feed, so this has hit me quite hard.

But I accept the decision with good grace.

I cannot really comment on COM, that is for the Board to do.

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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Ian Thompson » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:49 am

Adam Raoof wrote:Surprisingly for some, ChessMoves is perceived as a very important benefit to members.
I find this surprising. I flick through it and think that most of the content has already been published on the ECF website, so what's the point of also publishing it in a magazine?

The Right Move does have some benefit though - I can do the puzzles (usually :) )

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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:57 am

Ian Thompson wrote:
Adam Raoof wrote:Surprisingly for some, ChessMoves is perceived as a very important benefit to members.
I find this surprising. I flick through it and think that most of the content has already been published on the ECF website, so what's the point of also publishing it in a magazine?

The Right Move does have some benefit though - I can do the puzzles (usually :) )
Not all DMs have access to the internet. It's not printed any more, just distributed electronically and if a DM requests it they can have a print copy instead.
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Re: Right Move to close

Post by andrew martin » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:59 am

Adam, can you confirm that the current editor of chess moves, Andrew Walker cannot play chess, nor is particularly interested in the game. Is this correct?

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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:10 am

andrew martin wrote:Adam, can you confirm that the current editor of chess moves, Andrew Walker cannot play chess, nor is particularly interested in the game. Is this correct?
It's not appropriate to talk about members of ECF staff on this Forum, so please resist the temptation.
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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Jon D'Souza-Eva » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:12 am

Why is it inappropriate? I thought this forum was independent of the ECF (hence www.ecforum.org.uk rather than ecfforum.org.uk).

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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:16 am

John Upham wrote:Assuming we agree the current cost is £420 per issue which goes to pay the content provider and the producer what would you say was a reasonable cost and who would you recommend to do the work at those rates?
No idea, I just felt that was a lot a month for a single issue - perhaps it isn't?
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Re: Right Move to close

Post by Adam Raoof » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:18 am

Jon D'Souza-Eva wrote:Why is it inappropriate? I thought this forum was independent of the ECF (hence http://www.ecforum.org.uk rather than ecfforum.org.uk).
It is, but it is still inappropriate to name and discuss employees at the ECF Office, and we all accept that, no matter what our feelings. That's why this Forum is so great, and continues to be great.
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