What would be your top ten bullet points for discussion?Roger de Coverly wrote:The disturbing thing is not so much what they discuss, but what they don't discuss.
1. The membership scheme
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What would be your top ten bullet points for discussion?Roger de Coverly wrote:The disturbing thing is not so much what they discuss, but what they don't discuss.
They seem to be rushing ahead with the charity status proposal without it appears, giving any thought to the potential problems of the charity's interactions with FIDE.John Upham wrote: What would be your top ten bullet points for discussion?
Would ECF Council have to vote on bringing in the reforms to the voting structure or can the board force this through?Roger de Coverly wrote: For that matter, they aren't discussing possible reforms to voting structures either.
The former CEO put forward the notion that voting reform, some element of OMOV, could be part of the constitutional changes for charitable status.John Upham wrote: Specifically, what reforms would you like to see? Brass tacks would be useful.
Council are now wary of electing to an Executive post particularly Marketing, a known promoter of non-ECF events. But hasn't Adam now said on the S&B blog, that he was only prepared to do the Marketing and Membership job if he had the full support of Council and that a lacklustre campaign for election was part of testing this?Paul Cooksey wrote:I'm doubtful that dispute played any significant part in Adam's non-election.
Where does the S&B piece question "whether it is acceptable for the CEO of an Organisation to make a judgment on whether money has been properly spent"? The decision was made by the Board, wasn't it?Paul Cooksey wrote:I could also take issue with the more recent S&B piece questioning whether it is acceptable for the CEO of an Organisation to make a judgment on whether money has been properly spent.
I suspect that Council was concerned about:Paul Cooksey wrote:But then again, Council have approved a pointless investigation into Istanbul expenses.
Certainly seems to be a possible source for Leakgate, doesn't it?Roger de Coverly wrote:Someone should take a look at the ECF's own site, as for 2012 it contains not summaries, but actual reports on each of the Board meetings. The disturbing thing is not so much what they discuss, but what they don't discuss.
With the ECF's major expense being the Battle office, the expenses stay with the ECF if it continues to finance its office.David Pardoe wrote: This looks like a potential disaster. What will the `amateur` leg consist of. The crown jewels will be gone...professionals off to a separate place, international chess off the map, and the British Championships no longer part of ECF activity. It thus loses huge chunks of its interest value, and presumably needs far less financing. What would it actually be left with. What would it do that was meaningful. Would it need any significant funding, and therefore would there be any need for the grants and funding that it hopes to get from trying for charitable status.
Oh no they don't!Did you notice that they want to bring back the BCF to be the "new" professional body?
from the published minutes of Board meeting 59 (January 2012)John Philpott wrote:Oh no they don't!
Overtaken by events, perhaps. But is there a proposal to create a brand new body "Chess England" and leave the BCF in place?Formal proposal to a special meeting of the British Chess Federation to change its legal status to a Company Limited by Guarantee and to take over the responsibilities for the British Chess Championships and International Chess.
Andrew Farthing wrote, in the paper on charitable status presented to the October 2012 AGMOvertaken by events, perhaps. But is there a proposal to create a brand new body "Chess England" and leave the BCF in place?
Even if the Permanent Invested Fund is moved out of it, the BCF will need to remain in existence in order to receive any legacies for which it is the named beneficiary.As has been previously advised to Council, it will be necessary to move those aspects of the ECF’s activities which do not fit the defined charitable goals (promoting amateur sport or education) into a new, non-charitable organisation, intended to be called Chess England Ltd.
That's always been a given for the continued existence of the BCF. How many British or English chess bodies will there be? Is there a proposal of a trinity, the ECF, the BCF and Chess England?John Philpott wrote:Even if the Permanent Invested Fund is moved out of it, the BCF will need to remain in existence in order to receive any legacies for which it is the named beneficiary.