National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

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Roger de Coverly
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Re: National Club Championship - what is the point?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:18 pm

Sean Hewitt wrote:Agreed. My club, which has not entered the NCC in my time is planning to enter one or maybe two teams in this new format.
Perhaps you have the advantage of knowing the "when" and "where".

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Re: National Club Championship - what is the point?

Post by PeterFarr » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:40 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Sean Hewitt wrote:Agreed. My club, which has not entered the NCC in my time is planning to enter one or maybe two teams in this new format.
Perhaps you have the advantage of knowing the "when" and "where".
Grr.... So your theory is that only a selected inner circle are allowed to have advance knowledge, in order to put off others? Or is it just possible that there are a number of stages in planning an event, and that venue and timing are still being worked on?

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Re: National Club Championship - what is the point?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:50 pm

PeterFarr wrote:Or is it just possible that there are a number of stages in planning an event, and that venue and timing are still being worked on?
Something like "It's going to be in the Midlands and in the Summer" or "It's going to be in the London area and in the Autumn" is broad brush detail that if decided ought to be announced. If clubs are to be invited to send teams, the when and where are decision points as to whether they bother or not. There's still a relatively wide choice of weekend events, so a revived National Club could well be an either or choice. It always was. On the old Knock out format, with matches played at weekends, it was sometimes a choice between the National Club match and a possible Congress entry.

If it were to be held somewhere that a number of the teams were expected to be local, this could affect the format as if earlier starts and later finishes were plausible, then four or even five hour sessions could be used, instead of the three hour ones apparently proposed.

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by John Philpott » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:09 pm

The e-mail circulated by the controller that was referred to earlier in this thread included the sentence:
The event will take place over a single weekend to be held in the Spring of 2014 at a venue located in central England.

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:42 pm

John Philpott wrote:The e-mail circulated by the controller that was referred to earlier in this thread included the sentence:
The event will take place over a single weekend to be held in the Spring of 2014 at a venue located in central England.
You took the words right out of my mouth.

Obviously there are budget considerations but I hope the ECF will use the competition reboot to contact all clubs about the event and invite them to send a team. That said, I do think those of us who are also County officials - and who try to be positive about new ventures rather than responding with nit picking negativity - will help by spreading the word.
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Re: National Club Championship - what is the point?

Post by Sean Hewitt » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:30 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Sean Hewitt wrote:Agreed. My club, which has not entered the NCC in my time is planning to enter one or maybe two teams in this new format.
Perhaps you have the advantage of knowing the "when" and "where".
Yep.
The event will take place over a single weekend to be held in the Spring of 2014 at a venue located in central England.
On the basis of that and the new format, we'll be in.

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:24 pm

The website has now gone live here: http://www.englishchess.org.uk/competit ... pionships/

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:41 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:The website has now gone live here
There's a section on defaults, but not on default time. Zero, half hour or an hour?

Are you allowed to enter more than one team in a rating restricted division?

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:45 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:There's a section on defaults, but not on default time. Zero, half hour or an hour?
Good point. Will add it overnight. :oops:
Roger de Coverly wrote:Are you allowed to enter more than one team in a rating restricted division?
Yes.

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:12 pm

The quoted days are Sunday/ Monday. Is that correct?
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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:29 pm

Andrew Zigmond wrote:The quoted days are Sunday/ Monday. Is that correct?
No, the days (Saturday/Sunday) are correct, the numbers of the days are not.

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Paul Buswell » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:47 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:The website has now gone live here: http://www.englishchess.org.uk/competit ... pionships/
Thank you; it would be helpful to have some accommodation suggestions and/or cost estimates so that the overall cost of participation can be assessed.

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:09 pm

Paul Buswell wrote: Thank you; it would be helpful to have some accommodation suggestions and/or cost estimates so that the overall cost of participation can be assessed.
It's a venue that will be used by e2e4 in March 2014 and also in the past and by BUCA. That's not a help if you are not an e2e4 regular or a student. If the ECF have got a similar deal, the latest e2e4 prices are at http://www.e2e4.org.uk/high_wycombe/Mar2014/index.htm

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Steve Rooney » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:00 pm

I have to admit that I have never even considered the National Club event before, but this looks like a very good plan that could breathe new life into a patient that many seemed to have long ago written off for dead.

I hope it gets the support it deserves. I will certainly promote it around our county to try and generate some entries. Well done to Alex and the rest of the team putting it together.

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Re: National Club Chamionship - what is the point?

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:03 pm

Paul Buswell wrote:Thank you; it would be helpful to have some accommodation suggestions and/or cost estimates so that the overall cost of participation can be assessed.
The prices Roger has linked to are the correct prices. It's not published on the website yet because we need to finalise the way for teams can book rooms. I took a punt that that announcement could wait until tomorrow, or if I don't get chance tomorrow, Wednesday.

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