Directors Reports

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Roger de Coverly
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Directors Reports

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:14 am

Reports for the AGM have started to be added to the ECF site.

So there's the President
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-conte ... report.pdf
the Home Director
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-conte ... Report.pdf
the International Director
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-conte ... report.pdf

I'm not sure if it's new but there's a statement of how the Director's responsibilities have been changed.
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-conte ... report.pdf

The proposal to remove the office of Chairman has been struck through. This could mean that this office will continue or the proposal has been redrafted.

Those who thought that the need to produce an annual Business Plan was just civil servants wanting to make people do things for the sake it, will be pleased to notice that with the lack of a Strategic Planning Officer comes the scrapping of a responsibility to produce a Strategic Business Plan.
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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:42 am

Interesting, who is doing the work for the 'Specialist software for leagues is being developed' that is mentioned?
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Re: Directors Reports

Post by John Philpott » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:14 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
The proposal to remove the office of Chairman has been struck through. This could mean that this office will continue or the proposal has been redrafted.
No, it simply means that the individual who, in the absence of the ECF webmaster over the weekend, attempted to edit the page yesterday, displayed a lack of technical competence. Now fixed.

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:22 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:Interesting, who is doing the work for the 'Specialist software for leagues is being developed' that is mentioned?
I am informed it is based on the Yorkshire software which is a little ironic.
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Re: Directors Reports

Post by David Clayton » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:49 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:
Carl Hibbard wrote:Interesting, who is doing the work for the 'Specialist software for leagues is being developed' that is mentioned?
I am informed it is based on the Yorkshire software which is a little ironic.
Why would we (over here) want League software developed in Yorkshire, when we have an excellent League software package developed on this side of the Pennines? :wink:

It creates automatic fixtures, allows team captains to input match results, provides on-line reference to Grading and Membership files and automatically produces files for grading, plus various reports of outstanding fixtures, and even a list of players who are not ECF members!

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:41 pm

David Clayton wrote:Why would we (over here) want League software developed in Yorkshire, when we have an excellent League software package developed on this side of the Pennines? :wink:
I'd second that statement, although the one we use in Manchester isn't locally developed
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Re: Directors Reports

Post by MartinCarpenter » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:05 am

Well the Yorkshire stuff is rather nice. Especially for holding massive amounts of historic data because it does keep it very organised and lets you look at all sorts of reports about it all. Like the Yorkshire league in 2009/10:

http://www.chessnuts.org.uk/ny5/league. ... tionid=471 (basic league table),
http://www.chessnuts.org.uk/ny5/fixture ... tionid=471 (fixture list with results attached),
http://www.chessnuts.org.uk/ny5/pstats. ... tionid=471 (Players in a given league year, ordered by board),
http://www.chessnuts.org.uk/ny5/pstats. ... eamid=2021 (Stats for a given team in a given league for a given year),

Also players/year of course, although an ECF version might not want that. The only thing it doesn't do in terms of the historic data is to provide a good interface for getting at it. You have to go in through the games of someone you know played in the league that year :) (fixable of course.).

It might well make sense as a compliment to existing software which is managing the more mundane tasks during the year.

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Sean Hewitt » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:51 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
David Clayton wrote:Why would we (over here) want League software developed in Yorkshire, when we have an excellent League software package developed on this side of the Pennines? :wink:
I'd second that statement, although the one we use in Manchester isn't locally developed
Don't worry Mick - no one will force anyone to use the ECF software. However, I'm sure that of the many leagues out there that don't have such software, some will find some value in the ECF providing something for them.

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Graham Ives » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:18 am

The Shropshire League has been using its own results database for 4 seasons now. Results are entered by team captains via a php webpage and update an SQL database in real time. This allows everyone to see the results of every match, immediately, as well as summaries and statistics of the performance of each team, each player and a list of all the games played by each player.

Current Division 1 results

try clicking on teams names or player names to see various stats, eg.

http://www.shropshirechess.org/Chess%20 ... am=Newport A&season=2012-2013&comp=Division 1
- Newport Team stats from last year, and

http://www.shropshirechess.org/Chess%20 ... &Submit=Go
- my own stats from last year.

All the results are retained, so historic stats can be seen at any time. Results can also be shown in a form compatible with the ECF grading submission file so that they can be copied and pasted to an excel spreadsheet and submitted to ECF at the end of each season. (Of course it would be much better for the code to simply add the results directly into the ECF results database if that were possible - and I imagine it might save a few emails and quite a bit of office/ admin time .....)

There are also tools for specifying fixture dates and creating new sets of teams and fixtures at season start, as well as for mundane things like correcting mis-entered results and so on.

This is something I've developed (and am still developing) in my spare time with help from the Shropshire chess community. If anyone is interested in using it or helping to develop it further, I'd welcome suggestions!
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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:29 am

Graham Ives wrote: This is something I've developed (and am still developing) in my spare time with help from the Shropshire chess community. If anyone is interested in using it or helping to develop it further, I'd welcome suggestions!
A number of developers have come up with equivalent designs with a varying degree of integration with the ECF grading and accounting systems. New player identification can be a problem, given the historic lags in allocating an ECF grading code. I believe the local graders have use , if they want it, of a system developed by the BCF almost in the pre-Internet era.

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by MartinCarpenter » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:32 am

That Shropshire thing does look nice - its worth looking at the chessnuts stuff for a comparison. Quite similar, as I'm sure are others.

Given that there's no money at all in this, just a few volunteer coders, the advantages of pooling programming resources by having a single collective system would be hard to argue with :) Especially if it lets the ECF do the work of providing back end hooks into their grading databases once and then everyone to use it.

Just so long as they manage to make whatever they release reasonably easy to customise at the front end, mantain etc. (not always at all easy!). Logically it'd be open source so people can feed improvements back into it.

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:56 am

Nigel Short as FIDE Delegate.

http://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-conte ... eport1.pdf

Also commenting on a nomination for President.

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by John McKenna » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:14 am

Powerful stuff and essential reading!
To find a for(u)m that accommodates the mess, that is the task of the artist now. (Samuel Beckett)

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:37 am

Sean Hewitt's report
http://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-conte ... report.pdf

No mention of what many regard as the ECF's most idiotic decision of the year, namely to demand membership as a condition of participation in inter-school matches. Admittedly limited to matches being graded and nominally run by the ECF.

Arguably that's why the existing Non-Exec directors are facing an election battle.

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Re: Directors Reports

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:11 pm

I am curious to see that Sean is so confident on his interpretation of the Bribery Act. If he is able to apply the Act in anything other than the most blatant cases imaginable, then he could make a lot of money lecturing the Serious Fraud Office and big businesses ...

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