ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:58 pm

It shouldn't be necessary to say this, but for people to remove, or attenpt to remove, the elected President of an organisation, without explaining to the subs-paying members of that organisation that they are doing so, or why they are doing so, is no sort of a way to proceed.
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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:29 pm

JustinHorton wrote:It shouldn't be necessary to say this, but for people to remove, or attenpt to remove, the elected President of an organisation, without explaining to the subs-paying members of that organisation that they are doing so, or why they are doing so, is no sort of a way to proceed.
There are multiple reasons that could be speculated:-

AP's suggestion or demand that Nigel should be removed as FIDE Delegate
The newly published letter to Kirsan not having been approved by the rest of the board
Support for Zurab in the ECU election

Or even just a general breakdown in working relationships between AP and some of the other board members.

As far as the ECU election is concerned, I would have expected overwhelming support for the candidate "none of the above" ( who isn't standing) from both non-voting and voting ECF members. But perhaps other European federations want someone as ECU President who is up for a fight, if you can forgive the pun.

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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:35 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:There are multiple reasons that could be speculated
I'm sure there are. But we shouldn't be speculating, we should know.
Roger de Coverly wrote:AP's suggestion or demand that Nigel should be removed as FIDE Delegate
The newly published letter to Kirsan not having been approved by the rest of the board
Support for Zurab in the ECU election
Of course none of these would have any bearing on AP's capabilities as ECF President.

The ECF exists for the benefit of English chess. That is its function. It does not exist in order to be a piece of territory to be fought over in world chess politics and its officials should not be appointed or removed on that basis.
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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:03 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:Susan Polgar has tweeted the support for Azmaiparashvili as the reason ....
A pukka source if ever there was one.

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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by Carl Hibbard » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:23 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:
Carl Hibbard wrote:Susan Polgar has tweeted the support for Azmaiparashvili as the reason ....
A pukka source if ever there was one.
Well in the absence of ECF news due to a gag order any information is welcome.
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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:42 pm

My reaction to seeing this thread was, `Please tell me this is a joke.` I remember the acrimonious threads we had when AP was elected and I was one of those who suggested we give him a chance. Obviously we don't know the full substance of the dispute yet (and the situation may be retrievable) but an AP exit would mean three disastrous presidents from four. With so much talent in English chess organisation - why?

To be fair there was a reason why the board probably wanted this suppressed. At least limping on to October would allow time for a succession plan.
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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:18 pm

Andrew Zigmond wrote:... the situation may be retrievable ....
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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by Andrew Paulson » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:21 pm

Jonathan Bryant wrote:[quote="Andrew Zigmond”]... the situation may be retrievable ....
I wish I had Andrew Camp’s talent for animated gifs.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

Me too!

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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by David Robertson » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:49 pm

Welcome, Andrew.

Have you read THIS?

Should I seek protection?

And when will you resign? (yes, I do think you should - and soon) :)

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Post by Andrew Camp » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:49 pm

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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:00 pm

I think some kind of statement from Mr Paulson might be the least that ECF members are entitled to.

(As well as some kind of statement from the movers of the No Confidence motion.)
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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:54 pm

Andrew Zigmond wrote:...but an AP exit would mean three disastrous presidents from four. With so much talent in English chess organisation - why?
Omnishambles?

Isn't it like the USA - no-one suitable to be President will actually put themselves through the process?
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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by John McKenna » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:45 pm

Omnishambles/Babyshambles? (Take your pick.)

At least its all out in the open now.

Can all the ECF's horses & men put Andy & Nigel together, again?!?

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Re: ECF Board tells Paulson: "Resign, you bum!"

Post by Krishna Shiatis » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:54 pm

Andrew Camp wrote:Image
LOL Andrew C!

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