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BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:48 pm
by Ronnie Burton
Have venues been decided for British Championship 2016 & 2017?

With retirement in 2015, I hope to play more in retirement !

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:03 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Ronnie Burton wrote:Have venues been decided for British Championship 2016 & 2017?
It is possible they have been decided. They haven't been announced. For 2016, an announcement would be expected at the latest during the 2015 event in Warwick. 2017 may not be announced or even determined until 2016.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:51 am
by Jon Mahony
I’m hoping for Scarborough some year soon :)

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:10 am
by Mick Norris
1990 Eastbourne
1991 Eastbourne
1992 Plymouth
1993 Dundee
1994 Norwich
1995 Swansea
1996 Nottingham
1997 Hove
1998 Torquay
1999 Scarborough
2000 Street
2001 Scarborough
2002 Torquay
2003 Edinburgh
2004 Scarborough
2005 Isle of Man
2006 Swansea
2007 Great Yarmouth
2008 Liverpool
2009 Torquay
2010 Canterbury
2011 Sheffield
2012 North Shields
2013 Torquay
2014 Aberystwyth
2015 Warwick/Coventry

I would have thought Scotland had a bigger claim than Yorkshire, and I assume London is impossible

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:07 am
by David Sedgwick
Ronnie Burton wrote:Have venues been decided for British Championship 2016 & 2017?
I am aware that there was a recent meeting about this. I know nothing of the decisions or when they will be announced.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:45 pm
by Tim Harding
Mick Norris wrote:I would have thought Scotland had a bigger claim than Yorkshire, and I assume London is impossible
Why on earth would the English Chess Federation want to hold their championship ever (again) in Scotland, especially after last Thursday?

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 1:50 pm
by Jon Mahony
Tim Harding wrote:
Mick Norris wrote:I would have thought Scotland had a bigger claim than Yorkshire, and I assume London is impossible
Why on earth would the English Chess Federation want to hold their championship ever (again) in Scotland, especially after last Thursday?
I was thinking the same :) They have their own Championship.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:06 pm
by John McKenna
"Why on earth would the English Chess Federation want to hold their championship ever (again) in Scotland..."

Tim, for similar reasons to those of FIDE who held tournaments in London not long ago despite being at loggerheads with the ECF?

"They have their own Championship."

Jon, so do the Welsh.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:09 pm
by Reg Clucas
Jon Mahony wrote:
I was thinking the same :) They have their own Championship.
So does Wales, and many English counties, but it doesn't disqualify them from hosting the British Championships.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:12 pm
by Jon Mahony
Fair point Aberystwyth.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:15 pm
by Tim Harding
Surely Scotland and Scottish chess are far more disconnected from England and English chess than are the Welsh?
Scotland has been far longer in FIDE than the Welsh, for one thing,

It's somewhat disingenuous to argue otherwise, I think, and bringing county championships into the discussion is beside the point. Counties are regions; the Scots and Welsh are nations.

Hasn't the whole concept of the British Championship has become debased over recent years? (Though the wholesale takeover by India does seem to have been stopped.)
I am not arguing that it should be replaced by an English Championship, so long as there still is a UK, but I looked in vain on the ECF website for some statement of what the eligibility criteria are (except for saying you have to be a member of your national federation).
By all means let Scots and the Welsh (and even some Irish perhaps) play in it, but to expect the Scots to host it in preference to one of their own events does not seem realistic to me.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:27 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
The relevant thread and links may be here:

http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6167

'British Isles Coordinating Committee'

Not sure if there is any more recent news than that, though David Sedgwick may know more.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:56 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Tim Harding wrote: but I looked in vain on the ECF website for some statement of what the eligibility criteria are (except for saying you have to be a member of your national federation).
Eligibility conditions are on the British Championships website
http://www.britishchesschampionships.co ... tion-regs/
Entitlement to Play in the British Championships

Only players who fulfil one of the following criteria shall have the right of entry to the Championship sections of the Annual Congresses:

(a) British Citizenship, or
(b) British Overseas Territories Citizenship, or
(c) Citizenship of Ireland, or
(d) not less than one years continuous ordinary residence in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ending on the 30th June in the calendar year of the Championship in question, or
(e) not less than one years continuous ordinary residence in Ireland ending on the 30th June in the calendar year of the Championship in question, or
(f) not less than one years continuous ordinary residence in the Channel Islands ending on the 30th June in the calendar year of the Championship in question, or
(g) not less than one years continuous ordinary residence in the Isle of Man ending on the 30th June in the calendar year of the Championship in question

(qualification by title, rating, results etc. needed as well)
Those believed eligible are listed at
http://www.britishchesschampionships.co ... ualifiers/

Lengthy though it is, it's not believed to be complete as qualifiers via recent tournaments may not be recorded and in turn that can knock on to subsequent events.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:34 pm
by David Sedgwick
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Not sure if there is any more recent news than that, though David Sedgwick may know more.
I have nothing to add to Roger's post immediately preceding this one.

Re: BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP 2016 & 2017

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:07 pm
by Chris Rice
Hull the 2017 city of culture is a possible venue for the 2017 British according to item 8 of the ECF Board meeting 16 Feb 2015 minutes.

http://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-conte ... -FINAL.pdf