I'd say 59!!!!John McKenna wrote:How many queens can you have illegal and still only stalemate?
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Thanks, Greg.
I could only get up to 37 on my board, but they were all White.
Have you discovered a way of using Black ones to increase the count?
[Edit: I know this is off topic and do not intend to pursue it much further here.]
I could only get up to 37 on my board, but they were all White.
Have you discovered a way of using Black ones to increase the count?
[Edit: I know this is off topic and do not intend to pursue it much further here.]
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So obviously it's not possible to get more than 9 Queens of one colour in a real game, but that aside, try this. Kh8 pawns on h7 & g7 and a knight or Bishop on g8. Put a White king somewhere far away and Queens on all the other squares. Black to move. It's totally impossible but technically stalemate.
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Thanks for your revealing the method and the correct answer (subject to confirmation by Jack), Greg.
Now, picture this -
With 59 White queens occupying all the empty squares - making a grand total of 62 queens.
It's not stalemate and what might happen if we could start playing from the imagined position with W/B to move?
[NB: It does not seem possible to post illegal positions using PGN/FEN on the forum!?]
Now, picture this -
With 59 White queens occupying all the empty squares - making a grand total of 62 queens.
It's not stalemate and what might happen if we could start playing from the imagined position with W/B to move?
[NB: It does not seem possible to post illegal positions using PGN/FEN on the forum!?]
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Is this some kind of trick question?John McKenna wrote:With 59 White queens occupying all the empty squares - making a grand total of 62 queens.
It's not stalemate and what might happen if we could start playing from the imagined position with W/B to move?
It's an almost forced mate in 1 for white.
If it's white's move then QxQ(any legal such move) is mate.
If it's black's move then he must play QxQ taking in a direction which forms a straight line from the king. Then again Q(any)xQ(any) is mate. Only if white Q moves to the freshly vacated square (check) does the game continue with QxQ backwards. Then again any QxQ is mate only Q moves to vacant square continues the game.
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.
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Yes, it might even be causing a display or performance issue but I am checking.John McKenna wrote:[NB: It does not seem possible to post illegal positions using PGN/FEN on the forum!?]
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With the diagrams as shown (or as I understnd them as they dont really show) - there is no last legal move if all of the squares are covered, so subtract one queen.
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Thanks for pointing that out Paul, but what I want to know is - has Brian found a forced help-stalemate, with B to move, yet?
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Thanks Andrew - I enjoyed the commentary, yesterday, so I will have a look and stop posting illegally in your space.
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Andrew, many thanks for the great videos as usual.
For some light relief here is a very different approach to chess instruction videos from a wacky Dane previewing the Politiken Cup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JDJ1mB0OO8
For some light relief here is a very different approach to chess instruction videos from a wacky Dane previewing the Politiken Cup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JDJ1mB0OO8
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The move 13.Qb5 came in for quite a bit of stick where I was watching.
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Yesterday, I thought Keith might go gung-ho with 23... f4!?!
I think if he'd done that the game wouldn't have been a draw, but what do I know.
I think if he'd done that the game wouldn't have been a draw, but what do I know.