ECF Elections 2015

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Roger de Coverly
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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:01 pm

David Robertson wrote: No Board behaving prudently would knowingly appoint/elect/admit to membership a person who would compromise Board unity.
In any number of cases, the whole point of electing directors is so that Boards are not self perpetuating. So it's not up to existing directors to be able to veto new appointments no matter how controversial.

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Michael Flatt » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:57 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
David Robertson wrote: No Board behaving prudently would knowingly appoint/elect/admit to membership a person who would compromise Board unity.
In any number of cases, the whole point of electing directors is so that Boards are not self perpetuating. So it's not up to existing directors to be able to veto new appointments no matter how controversial.
Directors are elected to the ECF Board by Council at the AGM. The Board itself has no Authority to deny elected Directors from attending Executive Committee Meetings or prevent them from performing their role.

It is really for the chairman of the meeting to maintain order and control proceedings. In the event of a serious dispute arising from the actions/participation of a particular Director or Directors the matter may be referred to Council and propose that they be removed by calling an Extraordinary General Meeting.

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by David Robertson » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:09 pm

Michael Flatt wrote:The Board itself has no Authority to deny elected Directors from attending Executive Committee Meetings or prevent them from performing their role. In the event of a serious dispute arising from the actions/participation of a particular Director or Directors the matter may be referred to Council and propose that they be removed by calling an Extraordinary General Meeting.
Quite. And this ludicrous rigmarole is why ECF could never be considered a model of Good Governance

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Carl Hibbard » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:53 pm

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Mike Truran » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:50 pm

Sounds suspiciously like you're gloating. Is this some sort of pissing contest between you and the ECF? :?:

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:00 am

Mike Truran wrote:Sounds suspiciously like you're gloating. Is this some sort of pissing contest between you and the ECF? :?:
Gloating yes probably but contest no that one is already over.
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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Michael Flatt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:20 pm

AGM: 17 October 2015 at the Euston Square Hotel, London, starting at 1.30 p.m.

Just a reminder that the date for submissions of nominations and motions will close next week.

Deadline to submit Nominations: 1:30pm Wednesday 9 September
Deadline to submit Motions: 1:30pm Wednesday 9 September
Deadline to submit Nominations of Direct Member Representatives: Wednesday 16 September

In all cases contact the Company Secretary, John Philpott, Email: company.secretary@englishchess.org.uk

References
1. Call for Nomination in Elections: http://www.englishchess.org.uk/nominati ... elections/
2. Call for Motions on the Agenda: http://www.englishchess.org.uk/motions- ... l-meeting/
3. Call for Nominations of Direct Member Representatives: http://www.englishchess.org.uk/direct-m ... or-201516/

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Neil Graham » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:11 pm

Some considerable time ago I asked John Philpott to look at nominations since the BCF became the ECF. I have now reviewed this information together with what has occurred since. The figures may be slightly out but paint the picture I've quoted in the past "No-one wants the jobs anyway."

Of the 92 possible elections for the main officers/directors of the ECF there have been only 22 contested elections. So in round figures you have a 3 in 4 chance of being elected unopposed. If I added on other less significant posts, for example such as Finance or Governance Committee members, the figure would be substantially higher.

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:14 pm

Neil Graham wrote: The figures may be slightly out but paint the picture I've quoted in the past "No-one wants the jobs anyway."
Isn't it more a case of "no-one wants a fight against the incumbent and possibly the rest of the board"?

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Neil Graham » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:55 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Neil Graham wrote: The figures may be slightly out but paint the picture I've quoted in the past "No-one wants the jobs anyway."
Isn't it more a case of "no-one wants a fight against the incumbent and possibly the rest of the board"?
Not at all - the voting at the AGM is controlled by the Counties & Congresses not by the Board. I must have attended hundreds of meetings of one chess body or another over the years; apathy rules - there are no volunteers to do the jobs from club to county to Union to Federation level. Anyone who has been involved in chess administration knows this.

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:22 pm

Neil Graham wrote: there are no volunteers to do the jobs from club to county to Union to Federation level.
My point being that there is a reluctance, even at ECF level, to force a contested election, when the incumbent isn't intent on standing down.

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by J T Melsom » Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:52 am

Not sure which thread this belongs in, but others are being far too coded. People are taking soundings on behalf of a Non Executive Director [ John Foley] who is considering running against the incumbent Home Director. I think this needs to be in the public domain, as it clearly impacts on the viability of the Board going forward, and even if the Non Exec changes his mind, Council will have to consider his bid for re-election to his existing position.

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Michael Farthing » Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:04 pm

The whole situation is a sorry mess and it must be obvious where my personal sympathies lie. However, in the run up to an election it is perfectly proper for a potential candidate to take soundings and consider carefully the appropriateness of standing and, if the decision is not to stand, there should be no obligation on that person to say anything in public. Is the suggestion really that an individual who has considered standing against an incumbent and rejected the idea thereby shown himself unsuitable for his existing role?

If the decision is to stand then of course it will be in the public domain by Thursday morning, which has been judged to leave sufficient time for people to make their minds up about it.

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by J T Melsom » Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:27 pm

I don't think it necessarily shows unsuitability for an existing role, but does highlight instability within the board. One is bound to be suspicious of soundings being taken late in the day.

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Re: ECF Elections 2015

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:33 pm

J T Melsom wrote:I don't think it necessarily shows unsuitability for an existing role, but does highlight instability within the board.
It does show the extent to which, if at all, the non-executive directors are independent of some of the rest of the Board. I don't know if there will be contested elections for the non-executive director posts, but beware candidates professing independence who aren't going to deliver.

I don't know whether we should be alarmed, but an increasing number of the Board seem to have some connection either as management or employee with the Chess in Schools and Communities organisation.

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