British Championship 2018

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LawrenceCooper
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Re: British Championship

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:08 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:57 pm
Total shambles in the chess24 live games at the moment. Several games shown with results but zero moves. Board 20 assessment White winning but the board showing Black having delivered mate; no moves at all in the Major Open.

Looks like the top 11 championship games are showing normally, below that the chaos starts.

I don't recall anything like this before on chess24, ever.
Major Open seemingly working fine now albeit I did close and re-open the link to get moves. The odd bogus result showing on a game in progress but nothing more than that from what I can see.

Jonathan Rogers
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Re: British Championship

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:10 pm

Incidentally, I draw attention to Hawkins v Roberson, not just because White has a useful edge from a French exchange, but also because it appears to be a Cheddleton speciality: both Fodor and team captain Fiona Steil-Antoni played it at the last 4NCL weekend (as the brilliant CHESS reporter observed).

What to make of this? Perhaps players are noticing that White does sometimes grind out the win from the similar positions arising from the Berlin (after 5. Re1) and see too Kramink's early Qe2 v Petroff. These seemingly dry positions are, it seems, being played more and more as White as an attempt just get to a position with a number of pieces left and no forcing lines, with a tiny plus from the extra tempo. They are no longer mainly played to get draws against stronger opposition.

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Re: British Championship

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:11 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:06 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:03 pm
Knowing Daniel though, those probably are the real moves played in Fernandez v Muir (as seen on Chessbomb).
Yes - what a nutter!
Wasn't exactly my point !

Martin Benjamin
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Re: British Championship

Post by Martin Benjamin » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:15 pm

Is John Jarmany v Ameet Ghasi really the game played? I find it hard to believe. Perhaps it is a relic from a junior event played this morning on the same DGT board. There are a host of problems on many boards. Not complaining about a free service, just an observation.

EDIT: Now rectified and the actual game is being shown. Thank you to whoever sorted this out. Any chance of getting Kevin Thurlow's game v Rick McMichael up and running?

Leonard Barden
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Re: British Championship

Post by Leonard Barden » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:27 pm

The Major Open has now been restored to health, even the rogue 1-0 on board 3 changed to an early draw.

Although as Martin noted board 20 in the championship has been rectified, there remain gross live game errors of various kinds on boards

12 16 17 19 22 23 25 28 30 and 31 in the British Championship.

IanCalvert
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Re: British Championship

Post by IanCalvert » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:29 pm

Martin Benjamin

Great news that Kevin has not lost so far!?

Jonathan Bryant
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Re: British Championship

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:30 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:10 pm
Incidentally, I draw attention to Hawkins v Roberson, not just because White has a useful edge from a French exchange, but also because it appears to be a Cheddleton speciality: both Fodor and team captain Fiona Steil-Antoni played it at the last 4NCL weekend (as the brilliant CHESS reporter observed).

What to make of this? Perhaps players are noticing that White does sometimes grind out the win ....
Carlsen - Caruana, GRENKE 2017
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1871740

Anand - Caruana, Norway 2018
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1921230


Both preferred to transpose into a French Exchange rather than play a man line Petroff.

Magnus played Qe2+ to which Fab replied ... Be6 (better than Roberson’s ...Qe7, I think, although the latter def looks more natural.)

Axel Smith ‘s e3 Poison (2017) recommends giving the French Exchange a punt in general and Qe2+ in particular

Andy Stoker
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Re: British Championship

Post by Andy Stoker » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:35 pm

What has happened in Palliser-Jamroz - apparently 0-1 in 8 moves .... phone?! Chess24?!

Andy Stoker
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Re: British Championship

Post by Andy Stoker » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:42 pm

Forget that - glitch - game now shown as still in progress

Jonathan Rogers
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Re: British Championship

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:47 pm

18 g4 in Adams v Arkell, a typical "obvious move when you see it" but which only Adams and a few others actually play naturally.

LawrenceCooper
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Re: British Championship

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:51 pm

Andy Stoker wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:35 pm
What has happened in Palliser-Jamroz - apparently 0-1 in 8 moves .... phone?! Chess24?!
No result showing on chess-results so maybe a board malfunction?

Nick Burrows
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Re: British Championship

Post by Nick Burrows » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:59 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:47 pm
18 g4 in Adams v Arkell, a typical "obvious move when you see it" but which only Adams and a few others actually play naturally.
Not obvious when I see it! Looks very committal unless the knight cannot find a re-route.

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Re: British Championship

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:59 pm

Remarkable oversight in Adair v Fitzsimons.

Leonard Barden
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Re: British Championship

Post by Leonard Barden » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:01 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:51 pm
Andy Stoker wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:35 pm
What has happened in Palliser-Jamroz - apparently 0-1 in 8 moves .... phone?! Chess24?!
No result showing on chess-results so maybe a board malfunction?
Palliser v Jamroz has now been corrected, as have some others.

Malfunctioning live games remain at boards 12, 19, 22, 23, 25 and 28.
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Jonathan Rogers
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Re: British Championship

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:02 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:59 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:47 pm
18 g4 in Adams v Arkell, a typical "obvious move when you see it" but which only Adams and a few others actually play naturally.
Not obvious when I see it! Looks very committal unless the knight cannot find a re-route.
Well yes, that is mainly it - no outpost for the knight in the foreseeable future. Also, one when thinks about it. White is not really in danger of being mated here, is he? But still, for most of us (myself included) there is almost a psychological block against even thinking about moving that pawn two squares forward.

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