British Championship 2018

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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:47 pm

Kalaiyalahan making a decent fist of trying to hold what was previously a very lost rook ending
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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:29 pm

Brian Towers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:18 pm
What happened in Wall v Gormally? Showing as 0-1 but white looks much better to me. Surely not a repeat of last year ...?
chess-results says Gormally did win, so does anyone know what happened after 42 Qxd5 ?

http://chess-results.com/tnr367973.aspx ... =4&flag=30
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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:35 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:47 pm
Kalaiyalahan making a decent fist of trying to hold what was previously a very lost rook ending
Yes she did. Her opponent, the young Irish FM, seemed to think just after the time control that the position would win itself.

Instead 41...c5 (so White can never play that) 42 d5 a3 (permanent queenside threat) 43 h4 Re5 zugzwang. If 44 Kc2 the R can go to e4 and the K to e5.

Even at move 42 the ...c5 idea works

Or 41...a3 42 c5+ Kd5 also +5 for Black according to the online engine.
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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:37 pm

Howell v Jones and Emms v Adams tomorrow? Tasty!

Nobody is on 100% in either Senior tournament; getting crowded at the top there.
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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:40 pm

Fatigue and time shortage playing havoc with Chris Ward's previously-winning ending
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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Peter Shaw » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:55 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:29 pm
Brian Towers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:18 pm
What happened in Wall v Gormally? Showing as 0-1 but white looks much better to me. Surely not a repeat of last year ...?
chess-results says Gormally did win, so does anyone know what happened after 42 Qxd5 ?

http://chess-results.com/tnr367973.aspx ... =4&flag=30
I don't know what happened after 42.Qxd5 but I'm pretty sure the Adair-Bradbury and Wall-Gormally games have been mixed up.

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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Richard Bates » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:04 pm

Peter Shaw wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:55 pm
Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:29 pm
Brian Towers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:18 pm
What happened in Wall v Gormally? Showing as 0-1 but white looks much better to me. Surely not a repeat of last year ...?
chess-results says Gormally did win, so does anyone know what happened after 42 Qxd5 ?

http://chess-results.com/tnr367973.aspx ... =4&flag=30
I don't know what happened after 42.Qxd5 but I'm pretty sure the Adair-Bradbury and Wall-Gormally games have been mixed up.
Good point - the openings don't make sense for the players involved. Is there nobody cross-referencing these things?

Also makes more sense given that Adair-Bradbury was a draw, quite possibly the position on chess24 isn't the final one.

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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Brian Towers » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:09 pm

Peter Shaw wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:55 pm
Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:29 pm
Brian Towers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:18 pm
What happened in Wall v Gormally? Showing as 0-1 but white looks much better to me. Surely not a repeat of last year ...?
chess-results says Gormally did win, so does anyone know what happened after 42 Qxd5 ?

http://chess-results.com/tnr367973.aspx ... =4&flag=30
I don't know what happened after 42.Qxd5 but I'm pretty sure the Adair-Bradbury and Wall-Gormally games have been mixed up.
That makes a lot of sense.

chess24 has the two results down as wins for black, chess-results has 0.5-0.5 in Adair-Bradbury and 0-1 in Wall-Gormally. The final positions on chess24 would suggest 0.5-0.5 in Wall-Gormally and 0-1 in Adair-Bradbury. Since chess-results shows what is on the arbiter's laptop the last time they pressed "upload to server" that also explains the delay in pairing the next round.
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by David Robertson » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:49 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:37 pm
Nobody is on 100% in either Senior tournament
What on earth are you on about? Having a 'senior moment', I guess. Go check the >65s, and tell me my venerable colleague of more than half a century (Tom Bimpson) isn't in with a shout for 4/4 tomorrow

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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:03 pm

Senior moment indeed. I would tend to favour Hutchinson's chances of 4/4, though, especially as he has White.
I was right about the 50+ anyway, and wrong about the Championship.

It is indeed Howell v Jones but McShane plays Adams. Then:
Fodor-Fernandez
Ghasi-Wells
Emms-Hebden (recent team-mates in the silver medal winning squad from Radebeul)
Eggleston-Tan
Gormally-Palliser

Unless I've gone blind again that's everyone with 3 points or more.

Emms is the dark horse here after his great result in Germany and certainly worth an each-way bet.
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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by LawrenceCooper » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:06 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:37 pm
Howell v Jones and Emms v Adams tomorrow? Tasty!
FIDE pairing rules so the highest rated floats up.

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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:14 pm

"Lots of mistakes in Ratnesan-Thurlow (both players presumably missing the tactic involving f5 and a later Qg4+). Reminds me to be careful if I ever play on a live board again... "

We were both short of time and we were both (well I at least and I assume he) getting agitated by having zero points. I spotted the first f5 immediately I played the move, so that was some relief when he missed it.

He's only 13, and his behaviour was exemplary. Unlike the idiot who had a loud conversation by the board when we were in time-trouble. (That's not an excuse - I was losing anyway.)

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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by Tim Harding » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:15 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:06 pm
Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:37 pm
Howell v Jones and Emms v Adams tomorrow? Tasty!
FIDE pairing rules so the highest rated floats up.
Yes I'd overlooked McShane was on 3.
I think tomorrow's pairings are excellent news for Emms who was on splendid form at the Seniors (beat Joel Benjamin, drew with Black against Yusupov). I expect him to beat Hebden.
There is a danger he might then get all of the top four rated players in the last four rounds but if he can avoid Adams and Jones with Black he is definitely in with a shout for the podium.
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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by David Robertson » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:43 pm

Brian Towers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:09 pm
Peter Shaw wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:55 pm
Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:29 pm


chess-results says Gormally did win, so does anyone know what happened after 42 Qxd5 ?

http://chess-results.com/tnr367973.aspx ... =4&flag=30
I don't know what happened after 42.Qxd5 but I'm pretty sure the Adair-Bradbury and Wall-Gormally games have been mixed up.
That makes a lot of sense.

chess24 has the two results down as wins for black, chess-results has 0.5-0.5 in Adair-Bradbury and 0-1 in Wall-Gormally. The final positions on chess24 would suggest 0.5-0.5 in Wall-Gormally and 0-1 in Adair-Bradbury. Since chess-results shows what is on the arbiter's laptop the last time they pressed "upload to server" that also explains the delay in pairing the next round.
Makes no sense to me. The rd 5 draw reflects Wall-Gormally 0-1; and Adair-Bradbury 0.5-0.5. Thinks further... games mixed up, not results. So what we've seen as Wall-Gormally was in fact Adair-Bradbury. OK, bizarre, but that would make sense (of a kind)

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Re: British Championship 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:59 pm

Right, I'm still confused. Does that mean that when Jonathan wrote this
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:32 pm
James Adair struggling against Neil Bradbury who has so far judged the game very well.
it was actually Tim Wall who was struggling, and Danny Gormally who judged the game very well?

And is it further the case that James Adair in fact had a strong position against Neil Bradbury but failed to bring home the whole point
Tim Harding wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:29 pm
Brian Towers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:18 pm
What happened in Wall v Gormally? Showing as 0-1 but white looks much better to me. Surely not a repeat of last year ...?
chess-results says Gormally did win, so does anyone know what happened after 42 Qxd5 ?

http://chess-results.com/tnr367973.aspx ... =4&flag=30
after 42 Qxd5 ?
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"Yes, but I prefer a game with a better chance of cheating."

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