ECF AGM 2018

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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by benedgell » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:48 pm

Feels like a lot had been said about very little today.

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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by Matthew Carr » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:07 pm

Thank you very much

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Post by benedgell » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:07 pm

Still discussing the budget proposals. Still.

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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by benedgell » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:17 pm

27 for - 13 against. Card vote happened. Meeting closed. Result pending.

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Post by benedgell » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:24 pm

For 160 against 103, 1 abstention.

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Post by Andrew Zigmond » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:37 pm

Thanks to all those volunteers who gave up their time to attend the meeting today. It doesn't sound like there was much drama and I'm looking forward to hearing how the chess development strategy is going to work in real terms.
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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:39 pm

John Reyes wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:44 pm
D Lawson 277 2
M.Truran 286 0
Alex H 281 6
C Fegan 279 1
M.gunn 272 5
M.Pein 240 7
G Chair 276 1
Finance Chair 261 1
Audit 267 1
Mike Truran clearly most popular
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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:50 pm

benedgell wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:17 pm
27 for - 13 against. Card vote happened. Meeting closed. Result pending.
benedgell wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:24 pm
For 160 against 103, 1 abstention.
It's not clear to me what these votes are on
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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:54 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:50 pm
benedgell wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:17 pm
27 for - 13 against. Card vote happened. Meeting closed. Result pending.
benedgell wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:24 pm
For 160 against 103, 1 abstention.
It's not clear to me what these votes are on
Ben will probably answer in due course but I think he's referencing item 12 or item 13 which concern the budget and the membership proposals.
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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:55 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:39 pm
John Reyes wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:44 pm
D Lawson 277 2
M.Truran 286 0
Alex H 281 6
C Fegan 279 1
M.gunn 272 5
M.Pein 240 7
G Chair 276 1
Finance Chair 261 1
Audit 267 1
Mike Truran clearly most popular
Chris Fegan also did remarkably well given the the comments he's made about the council system and those within it in recent years.
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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by David Gilbert » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:00 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:50 pm
benedgell wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:17 pm
27 for - 13 against. Card vote happened. Meeting closed. Result pending.
benedgell wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:24 pm
For 160 against 103, 1 abstention.
It's not clear to me what these votes are on
The top was a hand vote in favour of the Board’s finance proposal. Five members then called for a card vote, which is the second vote.

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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:01 pm

Ah OK, thanks
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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by benedgell » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:39 pm

Andrew Zigmond wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:55 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:39 pm
John Reyes wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:44 pm
D Lawson 277 2
M.Truran 286 0
Alex H 281 6
C Fegan 279 1
M.gunn 272 5
M.Pein 240 7
G Chair 276 1
Finance Chair 261 1
Audit 267 1
Mike Truran clearly most popular
Chris Fegan also did remarkably well given the the comments he's made about the council system and those within it in recent years.
In all fairness to Chris (and I'm well aware we differ on issues such as OMOV and proxies for ECF meetings) he genuinely impressed me more then anyone else there, and has my full support in his work as Director of Women's Chess.

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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:53 pm

When he starts bullying people, as he always does, we'll see what happens then.
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Re: ECF AGM 2018

Post by Andrew Zigmond » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:54 pm

benedgell wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:39 pm

In all fairness to Chris (and I'm well aware we differ on issues such as OMOV and proxies for ECF meetings) he genuinely impressed me more then anyone else there, and has my full support in his work as Director of Women's Chess.
I actually agree with Chris on the need for constitutional reform although I don't think direct OMOV is the solution. Where I disagree with him very strongly is the role of the unpaid volunteer base and the idea that people who give up so much of their time to make chess happen (I'm not including myself in this) are part of some shadowy nexus determined to hold chess back.The evidence was on the now removed official forum but who can forget Chris' contemptuous dismissal of a titled player and hugely respected coach and organiser just because he dared take a contrary view.

That said he has hit the ground running as Director of Women's Chess and I expect him to do a brilliant job. What he might bring to wider board discussion is more of a grey area at this stage.
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