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ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:09 am
by Roger de Coverly
The ECF have announced a new scheme.
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/federat ... angements/
The ECF Supporter category will cost £5 per year and it will include benefits, such as receiving the ECF members’ eNewsletter. It is hoped that this new category will be attractive to social chess players and chess supporters.
What it doesn't say is whether being a "ECF Supporter" makes any difference, financial or otherwise to the social player playing their first ever league game, or their first ever Congress. Isn't the eNewsletter already available from website for anyone to download?
It a surprise that the ECF think the costs of collection are so low that it's worth bothering to collect £ 5 a head. The same applying to juniors. I must have imagined those comments that the ECF office is exceptionally busy during the membership renewal season.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:24 am
by NickFaulks
Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:09 am
It a surprise that the ECF think the costs of collection are so low that it's worth bothering to collect £ 5 a head.
My guess is that you will only be able to sign up online.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:28 am
by Roger de Coverly
NickFaulks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:24 am
My guess is that you will only be able to sign up online.
There's still the cost of inviting and processing a renewal. Is it going to be at the anniversary of joining or on the membership year of 1st September to 31st August?
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:35 am
by JustinHorton
I am a bit confused as to why this falls into Chris Fegan's area of responsibility.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:12 pm
by John McKenna
Perhaps it was en prise and so he took it en passant.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:25 pm
by John Upham
This matter is under discussion in
another place
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:34 pm
by JustinHorton
In which place Chris Fegan reckons Benjamin Franklin said "nothing ventured, nothing gained".
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:02 pm
by Richard Bates
Some people will find any excuse to complain.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:39 pm
by Nick Grey
Why not just sign up anyway for a fiver? I think we all missed a trick this month in an absence of social chess activities with WCC pub/wine bar.
Leaving work too late to play club chess, but will love a social chess fix instead.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:59 am
by Roger de Coverly
There's a bit more in the recent minutes.
DT outlined the full list of proposed benefits for the new supporters category as follows:
▪ Access to the newsletter and the newsletter archive (which will be moved to a members area of the site);
▪ Offers from sponsors as for members;
▪ Access to the grading database if this is included in the members area of the web site as part of the move to monthly grading.
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/wp-cont ... ration.pdf
I thought it had been resolved that hiding your publicity material ( newsletter) and one of your primary services (grading) behind a paywall was not the best means of gaining visibility for your organisation.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:24 am
by NickFaulks
Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:59 am
I thought it had been resolved that hiding your publicity material ( newsletter) and one of your primary services (grading) behind a paywall was not the best means of gaining visibility for your organisation.
The latter half is of course precisely the FIDE idea which the new administration immediately got rid of, to general approval. Makro is gone, but his spirit lives on.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:41 am
by Angus French
The current version of the membership list (dated 26 Jan) has 11,046 members of which 4 are of the category ECF Supporter.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:30 am
by Ian Thompson
I wonder if there are any other examples of chess federations restricting access to their grading/rating list to members only. If so, how common is it to do this?
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:58 am
by Angus French
I think member-only access to the online grading database would be a bad idea for the reasons indicated by Roger and Nick. But also, as a frequent user of the facility, I'd hate to have log-in every time I wanted to check someone's grade or whether they had a Grade Reference.
Re: ECF Supporter
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:03 pm
by E Michael White
Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:09 am
It a surprise that the ECF think the costs of collection are so low that it's worth bothering to collect £ 5 a head.
Gift aid ?