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"Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:52 am
by JustinHorton
Attributed to Steinitz, but I cannot find a source for it. Did he actually say it?

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:16 pm
by John Townsend
Thanks to Google Books, I found this on page 2 of The Household Chess Magazine of 31 January 1865:

"It is our intention to create for our readers a series of mental recreations, or, in other words, we have pleasure in presenting them with a complete

INTELLECTUAL GYMNASTICS,

on which the mental portion of their organisation may take full swing.

First and foremost in our mental gymnasium stands Chess, the royal game; patronised by the Emperor, who reigns over nations, and by Genius, who, still greater, reigns over minds."

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:29 pm
by JustinHorton
Thanks for that John. Forgive my ignorance - who would have written that, Steinitz? (I've hunted about a bit, but Google Books on a mobile isn't always the easiest.)

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:06 pm
by John Townsend
I don't know who wrote it. The editor has been identified by Tim Harding (British Chess Literature to 1914: A Handbook for Historians, 2018, page 138 ) as T.H. Hopwood, with assistance from Blackburne.

I felt the passage was worth bringing to your attention because the idea is similar to that in the quote, but, obviously, it hasn't yet led to an answer to your question.

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:28 pm
by JustinHorton
Ah OK. Yes, very much worth mentioning. Also see this.

I guess it could quite possibly be "attributed", as so many quotations are, but even if that were so you'd like to know when it was first attributed.

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:57 am
by O.G. Urcan
By chance, I discussed the Steinitz quotation with Edward Winter a few days ago, with a view to presenting various citations on the Chess Notes page.

- O.G.Urcan

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:48 am
by Gerard Killoran
Do you have this book or the Deutsche Schachzeitung source?

William Steinitz, Chess Champion: A Biography of the Bohemian Caesar
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JNITAQAAIAAJ
Kurt Landsberger, ‎Andy Soltis - 2006 - ‎Snippet view - ‎More editions
In November 1885, Mr. H. Bennecke, the chess editor of Bahn Frei!, the newspaper of the Turnclub in New York, visited ... Schachzeitung quoted amongst others Steinitz, who had written from London "Chess is intellectual gymnastics" (34).

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:35 pm
by JustinHorton
That's a good effort. I'm assuming you don't have the original (somebody here must have, though*) and can't tell us what source is represented by (34)?

* I see below that Tim has!

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:39 pm
by Tim Harding
From the above I believe may conclude provisionally that the quotation should be attributed to Hopwood not Steinitz.

As for the (34) that was the late Kurt Landsberger's incompetent attempt to do citations. The number, like others in his text, just refers to the Deutsche Schachzeitung which is item 34 in his bibliography. Without volume and page numbers it is worthless and clearly the reference is anyway not relevant to the question of who wrote the sentence in question. Landsberger many times quoted secondary sources when primary sources were required.

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:34 pm
by Gerard Killoran
From

The Chess Player's Magazine. v.4 (1866) page 257

'Nor will it do so until the following axiom, in the truth of which all masters of Chess are convinced, receives general acceptation, and that axiom is, that Chess is for the mind what gymnastics are for the body.'

The article is unsigned.

Correction: I should have read to the last line which is:

'From the Berliner Schachzeitung.'

Re: "Chess is intellectual gymnastics"

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:50 am
by JustinHorton
Chess Notes.

This seems to particularly stand out:
Philadelphia Inquirer, 22 October 1893, page 21 (feature by Carl Synder which included an interview with Steinitz). One of the world champion’s remarks:

‘Chess may be described as mental athletics. It is the gymnasium of the mind. I believe that the mind can be trained as easily and perfectly as the body, and I know of no better exercise than chess. It develops, strengthens and clarifies the brain.’