Remembering Sir George Thomas, 7th Baronet (14-vi-1881 23-vii-1972)

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Remembering Sir George Thomas, 7th Baronet (14-vi-1881 23-vii-1972)

Post by John Upham » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:40 pm

BCN remembers Sir George Thomas, 7th Baronet (14-vi-1881 23-vii-1972)

The gentleman's gentlemen of British Chess

A multi-talented sportsman in physical sports such as Lawn Tennis, Badminton, Hockey and others.

One of the greats of British chess without question.

Thoroughly deserving a well researched biography published by McFarland



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Post by Ken Norman » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:21 am

The late John Rogers wrote a biography of Sir George Thomas but could not find a publisher. He was told by McFarland that they had no interest in "A minor British Master."

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Post by John Upham » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:34 am

Ken Norman wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:21 am
The late John Rogers wrote a biography of Sir George Thomas but could not find a publisher. He was told by McFarland that they had no interest in "A minor British Master."

I was aware of that and it is a great pity. Possibly McFarland could publish a book about

Sir George
Sir Stuart
Harry G
Hugh Alexander in one volume?

Let us hope that JRs manuscript is not "lost".
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Re: Remembering Sir George Thomas, 7th Baronet (14-vi-1881 23-vii-1972)

Post by Leonard Barden » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:40 pm

John Upham wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:34 am
Let us hope that JRs manuscript is not "lost".
Jean Rogers was still on the electoral roll in 2019, so you could try contacting her.

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Re: Remembering Sir George Thomas, 7th Baronet (14-vi-1881 23-vii-1972)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:58 pm

See also what was said here nearly four years ago:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8539&start=15#p208152

(With another unpublished manuscript [on a different player] mentioned in 2018.)

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Post by John Upham » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:09 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:58 pm
See also what was said here nearly four years ago:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8539&start=15#p208152

(With another unpublished manuscript [on a different player] mentioned in 2018.)
Did you have a proposal in mind?
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Re: Remembering Sir George Thomas, 7th Baronet (14-vi-1881 23-vii-1972)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:26 pm

No proposal, I just noticed that 'Wisker' was mentioned there. Someone could try and set up a business/publication model for the ones that McFarland are not interested in. I am sure there are lots of half-finished/half-started projects around as well. It might have to be ideological (i.e. wanting to advance scholarship rather than turn a profit), but then even publishing houses like McFarland probably don't really make much (if any) profit, but presumably have to draw the line somewhere.

The idea of a collection of combined biographies might work, actually. I am reminded here of various 'biographical essay' collections, which are not always rigorous academic scholarship but do raise the profile/readership of the subject area and sometimes help laid the groundwork for later work.

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Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:08 pm

Thomas certainly had an impressive collection of scalps for a "minor master".
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Re: Remembering Sir George Thomas, 7th Baronet (14-vi-1881 23-vii-1972)

Post by Ken Norman » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:01 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:40 pm
John Upham wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:34 am
Let us hope that JRs manuscript is not "lost".
Jean Rogers was still on the electoral roll in 2019, so you could try contacting her.
Trying to contact John and Jean Rogers was always difficult.

They refused to have a telephone at home.

The last time I saw John Rogers was at Andrew Law's funeral. John was delighted to inform me he did not have a mobile phone or a computer.

I wrote to Jean Rogers several years ago but did not receive a reply. I suspect Jean has died and the manuscript has gone in the dustbin.

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